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===Assigned===
 
===Assigned===
  
:*Haidt, Chapter 8: The Conservative Advantage (34)
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:*Dennett, Daniel. Chapter 3: "Thinking about Determinism" Freedom Evolves. (300) (63-97) (Kennedy/Hendrick)
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===Some Context for discussing Determinism===
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:*Really, we are confronting the "spectre of determinism", like the "spectre of evolution".  It may feel like a loss.  It might feel like alot is at stake.
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:*Recall Henrich.  Western "free will" is ''at least'' an artifact of Christian culture, whether it is metaphysically true or not.  Again, it may seem like Christianity itself is at stake!
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:*Lowering the stakes
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::*The modern concept of free will is not an article of faith. Is it?
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::*Naturalizing free will isn't the denial of free will. (Further assessment, is it FW "worth having"?)
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::*We have lots of example of "naturalizing" phenomena from pseudo-explanations and false metaphysics.  Witches, mental illness, but also understanding how "mind can come from matter," what human nature is, etc.
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::*Moreover, religions appear to evolve. (OT to NT God..., separation from culture of origin's views of women, men, sexual orientation, slaves, metaphysics, etc.
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:*What if rethinking determinism puts FW and MR on a better foundation?
  
===Some notes relevant to the Role of Political Parties===
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===Dennett, Daniel. Chapter 3: "Thinking about Determinism" Freedom Evolves===
  
:*I'll share some notes from a ''New Yorker'' article, Jelani Cobb, "How Parties Die," March 15, 2021.
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:*Chapter 3: Thinking about Determinism
  
===Haidt, Chapter 8: The Conservative Advantage===
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:*Three Errors in thinking about determinism:
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::*1. We think determinism limits what is possible. (Austin's putt)
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::*2. We think determinism implies that "S(0) causes or explains S(t)". This misses the way causal inquiry works. (Computer marathon / JFK)
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::*3. Determinism rules out self-directed change, change in character or "life-hopes". (Closed/open futures)
  
:*Hadit's critique of Dems:  Dems offer sugar (Care) and salt (Fairness), conservatives appeal to all five receptors.  Imagine the value of "rewriting" our own or opposing ideologies as Haidt imagined doing.  Dems should appeal to loyalty and authority more.  Neglect may be ommission and underrepresent Dems (recall discussion of labels and issues.  We could add "values".
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:*Dennett believes his arguments in showing these errors apply to '''both''' det and indet worlds.
  
:*Republicans seemed to Haidt to understand moral psych better, not because they were fear mongering, but triggering all of the moral moral foundations.  Equalizer metaphor.
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:*Defining possibility, necessity , and causation in terms of "possible worlds"
  
:*'''Measuring Morals'''
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::*'''Necessity''' -- What is true in all possible worlds.
  
:*'''The MFQ''': consistency across cultures; large n;
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::*'''Possibility''' -- Whatever isn't "necessarily not" the case.  Roughly, all of the possible differences one might imagine between worlds.  (Informal and identification predicates come in here.)
  
:*162: Correlations of pol orientation with preferences for dog breeds, training, sermon stylesYou can catch liberal and conservative "surprise" in the EEG and fMRI.(similar to early Hibbing reading).  
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::*'''Determinism''' -- '''There is at any instant one possible future.''' In possible worlds talk, "A world is deterministic if it has the property such that, if it shares the same S(0) with any other world at time 0, it will share S (the same state description) at t."  Determinism is about causal sufficiency, not necessity.
  
:*'''What Makes People Vote Republican?'''
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:*Causation - How do we assign causes? (Note: Laplace's demon knows state descriptions not causes!)
  
:*biographical note about tracking Obama on left/right triggersMessage on parental resp, but then shift to social justice, global citizenship, omitted flag lapel pin.
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::*'''Causation''' -- Two logically distinct senses:
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:::*"Causal necessity" - without A, C would not happenHad Bill not tripped Arthur, he would not have fallen.  In all of the possible worlds in which Bill trips Arthur, he falls.
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:::*"Causal sufficiency" -  A is sufficient to cause C, but other antecedents might as well. Arthur's fall is an inevitable outcome of being tripped. In ''any'' world in which Bill trips Arthur, Arthur falls.
  
:*164: Haidt's argument for replacing "old story" of political difference: there's something wrong with conservatives!  Note reactions to his essay: some libs/conserv found it hard to establish a positive view of their "opponents"Haidt has implicit critique of Libs by saying that organic society can't just be about 2 foundations.  Experience with his essay.  follow.  
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::*Evaluating counterfactuals (as in the causal necessity example) requires establishing a "comparison set X" of worlds approximately similar to ours in which tripping Arthur leads to his fallingThe selection of the comparison set is crucial.  
  
:*'''Mill vs. Durkheim''' - responses to the challenge of living with strangers in modern society.  Individualism vs. Organic society. Haidt’s essay triggers lots of political venom. From that response, however, Haidt noticed that he was missing a foundation: Fairness as proportionality.  You reap what you sow.  The fairness foundation mixed fairness as equality and fairness as proportionality. 
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::*In assigning causes, we also typically assume "independence" and "temporal priority". But here are some cases to show how various considerations are used to assign causation in different contexts:
  
::*'''6th Moral foundation:''' liberty and oppression: taking the "fairness as equality" from Fairness and considers it in terms of Liberty/Oppression.  [Some discussion here.  Note relation to Authority/Leadership in Hibbing. Equality here means social equality and social hierarchy. When do we expect equal treatment? When do we tolerate hierarchy? When to we rebel. Similarity to Authority/subversion, but more than legitimacy of one authority figure, rather social hierarchy.   
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::*The Sharpshooter Case -- The sharpshooter has a low probability of hitting the target, but does.  We favor 'causal necessity' over sufficiency in this case in saying he cause the death.   
  
:*'''The Liberty / Oppression Foundation'''
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::*The King and the Mayor (overdetermination) - Both issue exile orders for someone.  Neither is necessary.  Pick one, maybe the king?
  
::*”The desire for equality more closely related to psychology of liberty / oppression that reciprocal altruism.   
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::*Billy and Susie - Billy's rock is sufficient to cause a bottle to break, but Susie's gets there first.  We favor temporal priority in assigning the cause.   
  
::*Evolutionary story about hierarchy.
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::*French Foreign Legion case -- a series of "but for" causes, all of which are sufficientWhich is the cause?
:::*Original triggers: bullies and tyrants, current triggers: illegit. restraint on liberty. 
 
:::*Evolutionary/Archeological story: egalitarianism in hunter gatherers, hierarchy comes with agriculture.
 
:::*Emergence of pre-ag dominance strategies -- 500,000ya weapons for human conflict (and language to complain about bullies and tyrants) takes off. This changes the strategic problem.  Parallel in Chimps:  revolutions: "reverse dominance hierarchies" are possible.   
 
  
:::*Cultural Evo Theory on cultural strategies toward equality: Societies make transition to some form of political egalitarianism (equality of citizenship or civic equality).  We've had time to select for people who can tolerate political equality and surrender violence to the state(Got to mention dueling here.) Culture domestics us. '''"Self-domestication".''' 
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:*Austin's Putt --
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::*narrow method for choosing comparison set X - worlds identical to Austin's prior to his putt. If you choose the set this way, Austin could not have made the putt (looks like determinism eliminates the possible).  But you could choose a slightly different comparison set and in some of those worlds, Austin makes the putt
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::*It follows that even in det world it makes sense to say that he might have made the putt.   
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::*Austin seems to choose the narrow method, but equivocates about "further experiments" (which imply changing the antecedent conditions).
  
::*Liberal vs. Conservative triggers on Liberty/Oppression:
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::*Conclusion (77): The truth or falsity of determinism should not affect our belief tha tcertain unrealized events were nevertheless "possible," in an everyday sense of that term[Well, possible worlds talk isn't exactly everyday. ]
:::*Liberals experience this in terms of universalistic goals like social justice, abuse of the power of the most fortunate. Oppressed individuals.   
 
:::*Conservatives triggered more by group level concerns. The nanny state is oppression, taxation is oppressive, globalism is a threat to sovereignty.
 
  
:*'''Fairness as Proportionality''’
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:*Computer Marathon
:::*After mortgage crisis recession of 2008 some like Santelli thought it unfair to bail out banks and borrowersThis is really a conservative version of fairness as proportionality, which shares some features of the "reciprocal altruism", such as necessity of punishment.   
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::*random number generators.  To generate variations in the play, we introduce slightly different conditions.
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::*With this random variation, you find the A beats B a thousand times in a row.  It would not be ''explanatory'' to say A was caused to beat BYou have to go up to the design or intentional level to explain A's behavior.   
  
::*'''Public Goods games''' (again)Setup1.6 multiplierStill, best strategy is not to contribute.  altruistic punishment can be stimulated (84% do) even without immediate reward.  cooperation increases. 84% paid to punish because we are triggered by slackers and free riders.
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::*Could B have castled? You have to do the analysisMight look at related possible worlds and say it was a fluke B didn'tOr you might find that B would have found the option if he's been coded a bit more efficientlyPoint: (82) Philosophers choose the narrow set (Could I have done something different in ''exactly the same universe as I am in''?) when thinking about determinism and free will, but no one seriously investigates possibility and causation that way.
  
::*In the research on Liberty / Oppression, Haidt and others find that concerns about political equality track Lib/Oppression, so fairness is about proportionality.
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:*83: read at: "The universe could be det on even days...."
  
:*Summary: Liberals have emphasize C, F, Lib while conservatives balance all six.  Libs construe Fairness in more egalitarian ways and have diff emphasis for Liberty/Oppression.  Many liberals and conservatives have a hard time forming a positive image of each other, but when you think about this, it sounds like something to work on.  In light of this research and theorizing, one could see that as a character flaw or unsupported bias.
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:*Events without causes in a deterministic universe
  
===Note on "Social Epistemology"===
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::*Determinism is about causal sufficiency, not necessity.  The actual universe at S(0) was sufficient to lead to JFK's death, but we don't know if it was necessary.  Note that we wouldn't say that S(0) caused JFK's death.
  
:*'''Philosophical Method point:''' The follow line of thought is also example of philosophical speculationWe are venturing a bit beyond the research itself to extract significance and insight.   
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:*coin flips have "no cause" even though they occur in a deterministic universe.  Note details. Important thing is to create conditions that make prediction impossibleIn a sense the coin flip amplifies micro-variaitons and thereby reduces necessity.   
  
:*"Social Epistemology" means a variety of things in philosophy.  Here, the idea that some traits relevant to group problem solving are distributed in a population (call this a "demographic epistemic trait" AND that this variation might play a role in optimizing group decision-making.
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:*Randomized Control Trials and Randomized Experiments.  Use "uncaused events" break the influence of patterns we want to exclude for purposes of the experiment (and to determine causation).
  
:*Think about evidence from Haidt and Hibbing about divergences in cognitive style and problem solving (BeanFest!) and perception from pol. orientationThey might be "epistemic demographic traits".  EDTs
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:*88: Why do we focus on necessity if it confuses us about free will?  Our rationality requires it.  Example of man falling down elevator shaft.  Landing is inevitable, maybe dying isn't. We can change the future because evolution designed us that wayWe have search algorithms, we are "anticipator-avoiders" (who look for necessary relationships)The fatalists lose in the the evolutionary competition.
  
:*Speculative questions about such traits (I am not aware of a theory about this yet): Are there are EDTs?  Maybe just DTs.  Would human populations with some optimal variation in EDTs do better than ones with more or less than an optimal range?  Think workgroups for examples, also.
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:*Third Error: Determinism rules out self-directed change, change in character or "life-hopes".
  
:*Related literature: Wisdom of Crowds [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds] and research on group decision making under conditions of cognitive diversity.
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::*Whether the future is Open or Closed is independent of determinism / indeterminism. Things can be "determined to change"  "In some deterministic universes there are things whose natures change over time, so determinism does not imply a fixed nature."

Revision as of 17:15, 26 October 2022

15: OCT 26

Assigned

  • Dennett, Daniel. Chapter 3: "Thinking about Determinism" Freedom Evolves. (300) (63-97) (Kennedy/Hendrick)

Some Context for discussing Determinism

  • Really, we are confronting the "spectre of determinism", like the "spectre of evolution". It may feel like a loss. It might feel like alot is at stake.
  • Recall Henrich. Western "free will" is at least an artifact of Christian culture, whether it is metaphysically true or not. Again, it may seem like Christianity itself is at stake!
  • Lowering the stakes
  • The modern concept of free will is not an article of faith. Is it?
  • Naturalizing free will isn't the denial of free will. (Further assessment, is it FW "worth having"?)
  • We have lots of example of "naturalizing" phenomena from pseudo-explanations and false metaphysics. Witches, mental illness, but also understanding how "mind can come from matter," what human nature is, etc.
  • Moreover, religions appear to evolve. (OT to NT God..., separation from culture of origin's views of women, men, sexual orientation, slaves, metaphysics, etc.
  • What if rethinking determinism puts FW and MR on a better foundation?

Dennett, Daniel. Chapter 3: "Thinking about Determinism" Freedom Evolves

  • Chapter 3: Thinking about Determinism
  • Three Errors in thinking about determinism:
  • 1. We think determinism limits what is possible. (Austin's putt)
  • 2. We think determinism implies that "S(0) causes or explains S(t)". This misses the way causal inquiry works. (Computer marathon / JFK)
  • 3. Determinism rules out self-directed change, change in character or "life-hopes". (Closed/open futures)
  • Dennett believes his arguments in showing these errors apply to both det and indet worlds.
  • Defining possibility, necessity , and causation in terms of "possible worlds"
  • Necessity -- What is true in all possible worlds.
  • Possibility -- Whatever isn't "necessarily not" the case. Roughly, all of the possible differences one might imagine between worlds. (Informal and identification predicates come in here.)
  • Determinism -- There is at any instant one possible future. In possible worlds talk, "A world is deterministic if it has the property such that, if it shares the same S(0) with any other world at time 0, it will share S (the same state description) at t." Determinism is about causal sufficiency, not necessity.
  • Causation - How do we assign causes? (Note: Laplace's demon knows state descriptions not causes!)
  • Causation -- Two logically distinct senses:
  • "Causal necessity" - without A, C would not happen. Had Bill not tripped Arthur, he would not have fallen. In all of the possible worlds in which Bill trips Arthur, he falls.
  • "Causal sufficiency" - A is sufficient to cause C, but other antecedents might as well. Arthur's fall is an inevitable outcome of being tripped. In any world in which Bill trips Arthur, Arthur falls.
  • Evaluating counterfactuals (as in the causal necessity example) requires establishing a "comparison set X" of worlds approximately similar to ours in which tripping Arthur leads to his falling. The selection of the comparison set is crucial.
  • In assigning causes, we also typically assume "independence" and "temporal priority". But here are some cases to show how various considerations are used to assign causation in different contexts:
  • The Sharpshooter Case -- The sharpshooter has a low probability of hitting the target, but does. We favor 'causal necessity' over sufficiency in this case in saying he cause the death.
  • The King and the Mayor (overdetermination) - Both issue exile orders for someone. Neither is necessary. Pick one, maybe the king?
  • Billy and Susie - Billy's rock is sufficient to cause a bottle to break, but Susie's gets there first. We favor temporal priority in assigning the cause.
  • French Foreign Legion case -- a series of "but for" causes, all of which are sufficient. Which is the cause?
  • Austin's Putt --
  • narrow method for choosing comparison set X - worlds identical to Austin's prior to his putt. If you choose the set this way, Austin could not have made the putt (looks like determinism eliminates the possible). But you could choose a slightly different comparison set and in some of those worlds, Austin makes the putt
  • It follows that even in det world it makes sense to say that he might have made the putt.
  • Austin seems to choose the narrow method, but equivocates about "further experiments" (which imply changing the antecedent conditions).
  • Conclusion (77): The truth or falsity of determinism should not affect our belief tha tcertain unrealized events were nevertheless "possible," in an everyday sense of that term. [Well, possible worlds talk isn't exactly everyday. ]
  • Computer Marathon
  • random number generators. To generate variations in the play, we introduce slightly different conditions.
  • With this random variation, you find the A beats B a thousand times in a row. It would not be explanatory to say A was caused to beat B. You have to go up to the design or intentional level to explain A's behavior.
  • Could B have castled? You have to do the analysis. Might look at related possible worlds and say it was a fluke B didn't. Or you might find that B would have found the option if he's been coded a bit more efficiently. Point: (82) Philosophers choose the narrow set (Could I have done something different in exactly the same universe as I am in?) when thinking about determinism and free will, but no one seriously investigates possibility and causation that way.
  • 83: read at: "The universe could be det on even days...."
  • Events without causes in a deterministic universe
  • Determinism is about causal sufficiency, not necessity. The actual universe at S(0) was sufficient to lead to JFK's death, but we don't know if it was necessary. Note that we wouldn't say that S(0) caused JFK's death.
  • coin flips have "no cause" even though they occur in a deterministic universe. Note details. Important thing is to create conditions that make prediction impossible. In a sense the coin flip amplifies micro-variaitons and thereby reduces necessity.
  • Randomized Control Trials and Randomized Experiments. Use "uncaused events" break the influence of patterns we want to exclude for purposes of the experiment (and to determine causation).
  • 88: Why do we focus on necessity if it confuses us about free will? Our rationality requires it. Example of man falling down elevator shaft. Landing is inevitable, maybe dying isn't. We can change the future because evolution designed us that way. We have search algorithms, we are "anticipator-avoiders" (who look for necessary relationships). The fatalists lose in the the evolutionary competition.
  • Third Error: Determinism rules out self-directed change, change in character or "life-hopes".
  • Whether the future is Open or Closed is independent of determinism / indeterminism. Things can be "determined to change" "In some deterministic universes there are things whose natures change over time, so determinism does not imply a fixed nature."