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==3. JAN 25==
  
===Assigned===
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===Assigned Work===
  
:*Haidt, Chapter 2, "The Intuitive Dog and It's Rational Tail" (25)
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:*Sonnenbergs, C 5, "Trillions of Mouths to Feed" (111-136) (25)
  
===In-class topics===
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===In-class===
  
:*Second look: What does the prisoners' dilemma show about the problem of reciprocal altruism and the emergence of cooperation?
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:*Review of food biographies
:*Rubric training -- Review and discuss four TriageEthics writings.
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:*The N, S, P model
  
===Second look: What does the prisoners' dilemma show us about the problem of reciprocal altruism and the emergence of cooperation?===
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===The NSP Model for Dietary Change: Comparing notes on variety expectations===
  
:*Reciprocal altruism emerges in our species when we use our big brains to decide when it is rational to incur a fitness cost to help others in expectation of a fitness benefit from their future cooperation. It is rational for us to try to optimize our fitness by benefiting from cooperative relationships. The big questions here is: '''When and with whom should I cooperate?'''
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:*Today we will start discussing how the NSP model helps us think about dietary change.
  
:*In the Prisoner's Dilemma, there is a '''discrepancy''' between the "rational" outcome (defect, rat the other guy out) and the optimal outcome (both stay quiet). The discrepancy is caused by '''uncertainty''' about the other person's behavior.  '''Will they cooperate?  Will they make me a "sucker"?'''
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:*[[Nutrition, Satisfaction, Practicality and Dietary Change]]
  
:*Resolving this uncertainty is an ethical problem (a problem that can be addressed by values). Values like promising, sincerity, reputation, accountability, punishment (talking stink about defectors) are all means by which we try to realize the benefits of cooperation.
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:*General “false practicality” point:  How practical is the drive-through fast food option? How much time does it take?  How does it makes you feel while eating, after eating?  Do you notice blood sugar spikes from ff?  How long until you feel hunger again?
  
===Looking at good writing: Debrief on your triage ethics writing===
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:*Small group exercise.  Today we’ll focus on some “Satisfaction-Practicality” connections relevant to designing / re-designing your diet.  Specifically, consider these questions as you head into small group discussion to hear others’ approaches and thinking.
  
:[[Assignment Rubric]]
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::*How much variety do you expect from breakfast, lunch, and dinner?
  
:*I marked the first three submissions in each section to start you on your rubric learning.  At this point, I just picked a few things to point out. 
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::*How many different dinners would you need in your repertoire to feel like you had plenty of good choices?
::2. A red "/" or "//" indicates writing that isn't "flowing" or has paragraph organization issues.  Paragraph organization is one way that you communicate your "strategy" for explicating your views.  You can also do this "semantically" by what you say in a lead sentence. More in class.
 
::3. Blue text is writing that flows well.
 
 
 
:*Some suggestions.  Look for some of these issues in the writing you browse:
 
::*1. Try to eliminate unnecessary references to you or the writing itself.  "I think I believe..."  Just believe. or, The approach I will take to this essay..."  Just take it.
 
::*2. Find a logical path for the writing. There are usually several starting points for explicating something, but each one poses a challenge: What needs to be said next? The "order of explication" should not appear random.  Flow and Organization are still challenges for upper division college students.  Just work on it.
 
::*4. Content issue: How many reasons and counter-arguments do you find.  One reason and one counter-argument is a bit thin for 250 words. 
 
  
:*Good writing --
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::*Types of variety:
::*In almost all good writing of the types we are doing (explication, presentation of a viewpoint, arguments and rationales for a position) a successful writer will be able to say not only '''what''' view they came to but also '''how''' they decided to present it, and, in argumentative writing, '''why''' they find their view persuasive.   
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:::*I want to come home knowing that I can choose from X different dinners depending on mood and conditions.  (Home menu model)
::*Usually, you find your strategy by "getting outside of your head" and thinking about what your dear reader might be going through as they both anticipate and follow your writing.
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:::*I want my shopping to give me X dinners to choose from.  It’s ok if variety decreases as the week goes by(Variety Shopping model)
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:::*I’m ok scheduling each dinner by the days of the week.  (Days of week meal planning.)
  
:*Small group suggestions: Start out looking at the some of the pieces in the other section than yours. Browse my mark up of writing in in the first few.  After you've done the next three, we'll get into groups so you can compare your impressions.  Share your ideas about what the writer did well and what you would improve.
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::*Other variety considerations:
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:::*I don’t want to repeat meals much within a week.
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:::*I’m fine eating the same thing for 2-3 nights or alternating 2 dinners over 4 days.
  
===Haidt, Chapter 2, "The Intuitive Dog and Its Rational Tail"===
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::*Other sources of variety
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:::*Seasonal rotations
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:::*Make shift dinners.  (I can sometimes just make a salad and side veg for dinner.) Note the nutrition/practicality issues here.  Easy to do and very practical if you are on top of your nutrition.
  
:*'''Some complaints about philosophers'''
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===Sonnenbergs, C 5, "Trillions of Mouths to Feed"===
::*Philosophy's "rationalist delusion" ex. from Timaeus.  but also in rationalist psych.  -- Assuming reason is our perfection.  Desire is a necessary evil for mortals.  Desire is a slave to reason. 
 
::*Three models for the relation of reason to desire:
 
:::*Plato - Reason ought to be the master of emotions. (Timaeus myth of the body - 2nd soul(emotional)), but also image of human as charioteer holding the reigns on desire (the horses). The "ultimate rationalist fantasy" is to believe that passions only serve reason, which controls them.
 
:::*Hume (Reason is slave of passions) Examples: Reason comes in to justify emotion. Inner lawyer.
 
:::*Jefferson (The Head and The Heart model. Nature has made a "division of labor" - Haidt thinks Jefferson got it right.). Jefferson’s racy trip to Paris.
 
  
:*'''The troubled history of applying evolution to social processes'''
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:'''Microbiota extinction'''
::*A brief history of attempts to apply Darwinian thinking to social life (and morality).
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::*Not just from change in foods, fewer fermented foods, more sterile food and sterile environments.   
::*Darwin - a nativist - thought nature selected for moral emotions like sympathy and concern about reputation'''First wave''': Late 19th century: “Social Darwinism” (not Darwin’s conviction). (Note that it violates Sapolsky’s warning about evolution being prospective.)
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::*To improve gut diversity, eat fermented foods, foods with active cultures, and fiber. whole grains and rice. Don't sterilize your home environment.  Pets and gardens help with our microbiota. (Elsewhere, food provokes an immune response. That's a good thing.)  Variety is important. Different MB species like different things.
::*'''Second wave''' 60s (hippie/boomer) ideology suggesting that we can liberate ourselves from our biology and traditional morality (as contraception appeared to). Resists idea, for example, that men and women might have different evo strategies. Resists culture and authority as oppressive.
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::*Introduces acronym: MAC -- microbiota accessible carbs -- these are really complex carbs.   
::*Example: Resistance to E. O. Wilson’s ''Sociobiology''. Wilson advanced the claim we saw in Sapolsky: Evolution shapes behavior. But he dared to apply it to humans.  
 
::*Wilson also suspected that our rational justifications might be confabulations to support our intuitions.  Roughly, we are disgusted by torture so we believe in rightsRead at 32: “Do people believe…?
 
  
:*'''The emotional nineties (Third Wave)'''
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:'''Our Microbiota: Recyclers'''
::*Even though Wilson was shouted down and “de-platformed”, history proves him right.
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::*Microbiota mechanisms: You are what you eat.  You are what your microbiota eats and metabolizes.  
::*de Waal, primatologist, who studied moral behavior in primates. Monkey fairness.
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::*Nice metaphor of intestines to waste management.  Note diffs bt small intestine and large in function.  
::*Damasio's research on vmPFC disabled patients. They could watch gruesome images without feeling, but had trouble planning. (Phineas Gage) Lesions shut down the "valence" (flashes of positive neg emotions) encoded in memory.  (Quick examples.)
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::*Life is hard for our M germs: no oxygen down there (must use anerobic processes, unlike our cells) and transit time is fast (hopefully!). So they make short chain fatty acids (SCFAs) that can metabolize in the blood stream where there is oxygen. You do get some calories from them once they are in an aerobic environment.  But they are more important for us now (given that we don't have food insecurity) for their pharmacological and metabolic functions.  (A reason why the "N" in NSP, should be an "H" for health.)  
::*Point: '''Reasoning about practical matters requires feeling.'''
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::*Why feed the gut?  Isn't that just more calories? (116) - No. people with high SCFA diets lose weight (Why? Satiety), decrease inflammation, less Western diet disease. Back to the connection between satiety and nutritional health.  (N - S - P).  For S, think of mouth satisfaction, stomach satisfaction, and gut satisfaction.
  
:*'''Why Atheists Won’t Sell Their Souls'''
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::*Sig. claim: 117: "Providing more dietary fiber for MB fermentation would likely result in weight loss, lower inflammation, decreased Weatern diseases..."
:*Evolutionary Psychology in moral psychology: Dual Processing model. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_process_theory#System_1] 
 
::*Do we make moral decisions under controlled or automatic processing?  No problem making moral decisions under cognitive load.  Suggests automatic processing.  Note this also suggests that we shouldn't think of our "principles" as causal.  
 
::*Can we see automatic processing when reasons are missing? 
 
:::*Roach-juice
 
:::*Soul selling
 
:::*Incest story (Harmless taboo violation). Note how interviewer pushes toward dumbfounding.
 
  
:*'''How to explain dumbfounding: Pattern matching v. Reasoning'''
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:'''History of research on fiber'''
::*Margolis: seeing that (pattern matching - automatic) vs. reasoning why (controlled thought); we have bias toward confirmation, which is seen in the mistake people make on the Wasson Card test.  "Judgement and justification are separate processes."  At least sometimes, it appears the justification is ex post facto. (Reason a slave to the passions.)
 
  
:*'''Rider and Elephant''' (System 2 (reason) and System 1 (passions; emotions)
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::*Field doctors: Thomas Cleave, 70s "The Saccharine Disease" "Bran Man" - his theory met with skepticism in medical community; Denis Burkitt (and Hugh Trowell) studied Westerners and Africans on fiber, stool quality, and health. 5x fiber, 2x transit.  Overconsumption of refined carbs. (S&S mention here that public health attention didn't stay on refined Carbs. fear of fat, elsewhere "lipidphobia" took more attention.)   "If you pass small stools, you have to have large hospitals."
::*Important to see Elephant as making judgements (Emotions are epistemic), not just "feeling" (Hard for traditional philosophers to do.)  (Pause for examples of "intelligent emotions")
 
::*45: Elephant and Rider defined. Emotions are a kind of information processing, part of the cognitive process. Not just “gut feeling”. Intuition and reasoning are both cognitive.
 
::*Values of the rider: seeing into future, treating like cases like; post hoc explanation, but "expensive" in terms of attention and time. (Like education itself!)
 
::*Values of the elephant: automatic, valuative, ego-maintaining, opens us to influence from others.
 
:*Note Carnegie's advice -- fits with Haidt's model.  If you want to persuade people, talk to the elephant. (Note: If the elephant is very afraid and powerless, this can lead to bad outcomes.)
 
  
:*'''Social Intuitionist Model'''
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::*Early researchers didn't have the mechanisms. Now we do, sort of.
:*How does Rider and Elephant interact socially? Examples from everyday life: Who do you take advice and criticism from?  People who’s elephants you like and like you.
 
  
:*Bring up Repligate issue. [https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-nature-nurture-nietzsche-blog/201509/quick-guide-the-replication-crisis-in-psychology]
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:'''Carbohydrates' Bad Reputation'''
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::*Carb chemistry/metabolism basics -- 120: mono, di, poly-saccarides. also in our nutrition textbook chapters.  Starches usually break down in small intestine, alot like sugar.
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::*Oligosaccharides: 3-9 monosaccharides. Oligosaccharides (found in legumes, whole grains, fruits and veg. also pectin and inulin (in onions) ferment in gut).
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::*Insulin resistance.  Sugars and many starches cause insulin spikes leading to resistance. Big point here.  At the level of MACs, plant chemical diversity is reflected in diversity of M. and it's products. 
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::*122: glycemic index and glycemic load.  (We'll cover this later.) show how to look up food values.  note that glycemic index isn't really an issue with most whole fruits and vegetables.  Example: pumpkin has a high glycemic index, a low load.  You want low load, high-MAC.
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:'''Measuring MACs'''
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::*Nitrition labels don't give you information about glycemic load or MACs  no standard measure of dietary fiber (note discrepancies from above.) 124. So author’s prefer MACs as a term since it focuses on what the MB can eat from your carbs.
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::*Undernourished gut bacteria can start eating the mucus lining of the gut.  (This was also in a segment of one of the gut movies.). '''Feed them or they'll eat you!'''
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::*RDAs: 29/38 grams.  Actual Americans average: 15 grams/day.  (Recall our African brothers and sisters at 100+ /day!)  126: Notes that not all complex carbs are available to the MB. Take away: More MACS, more fermentation, more SCFAs.   
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::*Research discovering enzyme in nori, a seaweed based sushi wrapper: found in Japanese guts. Helps digest fish.  Note: Terrior.  Local adaptation of the M.
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:'''Rich and Poor MB'''
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::*128:  Dutch research on rich and poor M.  richness of M correlates with anti-inflammatory effects, thinness, low insulin resistance, metabolic potential for pro-carginogenic compounds.  French study interesting because it suggests that dietary change can quickly alter M diversity (richness).
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::*Gordon's twin study on obesity. also famous 2013 FMT mouse research:  need M and M-supporting diet, not just the bacteria.  Note caveat 129. '''Can't just benefit from the microbes alone'''. Fecal transplant with poor diet killed off beneficial bacteria.
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:'''Refining MACs out of the diet'''. 
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::*What's wrong with refined cereal seeds (130).  Wheat bread vs. Wheat berries.  '''The form of the food matters to the fiber count.''' Highly milled whole wheat flour will behave differently in your gut that rough milled.  Much industrial whole wheat is very finely ground.
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::*Industrial bread products '''even if they are called "whole wheat"''' must removes oils for shelf life.   
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::*CF. whole wheat bread: 2g fiber.  Cooked unmilled wheat berries (like my Farro/veg salad).
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::*What about the Inuit?
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::*What about excess gas? Interesting consolations.
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::*135: Note their dietary advice.  A high MAC, non-industrial omnivorous diet.

Revision as of 21:23, 25 January 2023

3. JAN 25

Assigned Work

  • Sonnenbergs, C 5, "Trillions of Mouths to Feed" (111-136) (25)

In-class

  • Review of food biographies
  • The N, S, P model

The NSP Model for Dietary Change: Comparing notes on variety expectations

  • Today we will start discussing how the NSP model helps us think about dietary change.
  • General “false practicality” point: How practical is the drive-through fast food option? How much time does it take? How does it makes you feel while eating, after eating? Do you notice blood sugar spikes from ff? How long until you feel hunger again?
  • Small group exercise. Today we’ll focus on some “Satisfaction-Practicality” connections relevant to designing / re-designing your diet. Specifically, consider these questions as you head into small group discussion to hear others’ approaches and thinking.
  • How much variety do you expect from breakfast, lunch, and dinner?
  • How many different dinners would you need in your repertoire to feel like you had plenty of good choices?
  • Types of variety:
  • I want to come home knowing that I can choose from X different dinners depending on mood and conditions. (Home menu model)
  • I want my shopping to give me X dinners to choose from. It’s ok if variety decreases as the week goes by. (Variety Shopping model)
  • I’m ok scheduling each dinner by the days of the week. (Days of week meal planning.)
  • Other variety considerations:
  • I don’t want to repeat meals much within a week.
  • I’m fine eating the same thing for 2-3 nights or alternating 2 dinners over 4 days.
  • Other sources of variety
  • Seasonal rotations
  • Make shift dinners. (I can sometimes just make a salad and side veg for dinner.) Note the nutrition/practicality issues here. Easy to do and very practical if you are on top of your nutrition.

Sonnenbergs, C 5, "Trillions of Mouths to Feed"

Microbiota extinction
  • Not just from change in foods, fewer fermented foods, more sterile food and sterile environments.
  • To improve gut diversity, eat fermented foods, foods with active cultures, and fiber. whole grains and rice. Don't sterilize your home environment. Pets and gardens help with our microbiota. (Elsewhere, food provokes an immune response. That's a good thing.) Variety is important. Different MB species like different things.
  • Introduces acronym: MAC -- microbiota accessible carbs -- these are really complex carbs.
Our Microbiota: Recyclers
  • Microbiota mechanisms: You are what you eat. You are what your microbiota eats and metabolizes.
  • Nice metaphor of intestines to waste management. Note diffs bt small intestine and large in function.
  • Life is hard for our M germs: no oxygen down there (must use anerobic processes, unlike our cells) and transit time is fast (hopefully!). So they make short chain fatty acids (SCFAs) that can metabolize in the blood stream where there is oxygen. You do get some calories from them once they are in an aerobic environment. But they are more important for us now (given that we don't have food insecurity) for their pharmacological and metabolic functions. (A reason why the "N" in NSP, should be an "H" for health.)
  • Why feed the gut? Isn't that just more calories? (116) - No. people with high SCFA diets lose weight (Why? Satiety), decrease inflammation, less Western diet disease. Back to the connection between satiety and nutritional health. (N - S - P). For S, think of mouth satisfaction, stomach satisfaction, and gut satisfaction.
  • Sig. claim: 117: "Providing more dietary fiber for MB fermentation would likely result in weight loss, lower inflammation, decreased Weatern diseases..."
History of research on fiber
  • Field doctors: Thomas Cleave, 70s "The Saccharine Disease" "Bran Man" - his theory met with skepticism in medical community; Denis Burkitt (and Hugh Trowell) studied Westerners and Africans on fiber, stool quality, and health. 5x fiber, 2x transit. Overconsumption of refined carbs. (S&S mention here that public health attention didn't stay on refined Carbs. fear of fat, elsewhere "lipidphobia" took more attention.) "If you pass small stools, you have to have large hospitals."
  • Early researchers didn't have the mechanisms. Now we do, sort of.
Carbohydrates' Bad Reputation
  • Carb chemistry/metabolism basics -- 120: mono, di, poly-saccarides. also in our nutrition textbook chapters. Starches usually break down in small intestine, alot like sugar.
  • Oligosaccharides: 3-9 monosaccharides. Oligosaccharides (found in legumes, whole grains, fruits and veg. also pectin and inulin (in onions) ferment in gut).
  • Insulin resistance. Sugars and many starches cause insulin spikes leading to resistance. Big point here. At the level of MACs, plant chemical diversity is reflected in diversity of M. and it's products.
  • 122: glycemic index and glycemic load. (We'll cover this later.) show how to look up food values. note that glycemic index isn't really an issue with most whole fruits and vegetables. Example: pumpkin has a high glycemic index, a low load. You want low load, high-MAC.
Measuring MACs
  • Nitrition labels don't give you information about glycemic load or MACs no standard measure of dietary fiber (note discrepancies from above.) 124. So author’s prefer MACs as a term since it focuses on what the MB can eat from your carbs.
  • Undernourished gut bacteria can start eating the mucus lining of the gut. (This was also in a segment of one of the gut movies.). Feed them or they'll eat you!
  • RDAs: 29/38 grams. Actual Americans average: 15 grams/day. (Recall our African brothers and sisters at 100+ /day!) 126: Notes that not all complex carbs are available to the MB. Take away: More MACS, more fermentation, more SCFAs.
  • Research discovering enzyme in nori, a seaweed based sushi wrapper: found in Japanese guts. Helps digest fish. Note: Terrior. Local adaptation of the M.
Rich and Poor MB
  • 128: Dutch research on rich and poor M. richness of M correlates with anti-inflammatory effects, thinness, low insulin resistance, metabolic potential for pro-carginogenic compounds. French study interesting because it suggests that dietary change can quickly alter M diversity (richness).
  • Gordon's twin study on obesity. also famous 2013 FMT mouse research: need M and M-supporting diet, not just the bacteria. Note caveat 129. Can't just benefit from the microbes alone. Fecal transplant with poor diet killed off beneficial bacteria.
Refining MACs out of the diet.
  • What's wrong with refined cereal seeds (130). Wheat bread vs. Wheat berries. The form of the food matters to the fiber count. Highly milled whole wheat flour will behave differently in your gut that rough milled. Much industrial whole wheat is very finely ground.
  • Industrial bread products even if they are called "whole wheat" must removes oils for shelf life.
  • CF. whole wheat bread: 2g fiber. Cooked unmilled wheat berries (like my Farro/veg salad).
  • What about the Inuit?
  • What about excess gas? Interesting consolations.
  • 135: Note their dietary advice. A high MAC, non-industrial omnivorous diet.