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==27: NOV 30. Limits on Responsibility and The "growth of knowledge" argument==
  
 
===Assigned===
 
===Assigned===
:*Sapolsky, Chapter 16: Biology, the Criminal Justice System, and (Oh, Why Not?) Free Will (580-613)  (Part Two 600-613)
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:*Sapolsky, Chapter 16: Biology, the Criminal Justice System, and (Oh, Why Not?) Free Will (580-613)  (Part Two 598-613)
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:*Henrich, Joseph, "Hell, Free Will, and Moral Universalism" from ''The WEIRDEST People on Earth'' p. 146-148, (2)
 
:*Henrich, Joseph, "Hell, Free Will, and Moral Universalism" from ''The WEIRDEST People on Earth'' p. 146-148, (2)
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:*Over the next few classes, try to watch some of these: 
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:*Some videos/websites about prisons and incarceration:
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::*[https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2023.html Prison Policy Initiative] Prison Policy Initiative]: A good up-to-date overview of prison facts and some popular myths about the US prison system.  Updated to 2023!
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::*The Atlantic, data visualization on incarceration of African Americans [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u51_pzax4M0]
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::*Data visualization on mass incarceration. [https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/]
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::*Norwegian prison, [https://youtu.be/zNpehw-Yjvs]
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::*US Supermax prison, “Red Onion” [https://youtu.be/ocTl5G4AJ9A]
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::*”When kids do hard time,” Wabash Prison, [https://youtu.be/VqrH_7lQMvc]
  
 
===In-class===
 
===In-class===
  
:*Lecture: Does Having a view of Free Will help you think about Moral Responsibility?
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:*Some limits on Ultimate Moral Responsibility
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:*How can anyone be a compatibilist?
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:*How should we treat people who make mistakes?
  
===Free Will, Cultural Evolution, and ordinary language===
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===Some argument against Ultimate Moral Responsibility===
  
:*Sapolsky made short work of the problem of free will with his “biology or homunculus” approach. 
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:Lines of argument regarding individual moral responsibility:
  
:*'''Free Will and Moral Responsibility''':
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:*1. Strawson's Impossibility Argument.
:*1. Traditional View of Free Will from Dualist Tradition.  Modern Version: Libertarian.
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::*We cannot be "ultimately" responsible for how we are.  What follows from his argument?
::*Examples of argument threads:
 
:::*1. The "incompatibilist intuition": If we do not have "metaphysically real" FW, then we cannot be held responsible.  If the world is deterministic, then we do not have FW and cannot be MR.  Because we are MR, we must have FW. (problems)
 
:::*2. If we have a soul, then maybe the choosy part of us isn't controlled by nature. ...
 
:::*3. Libertarian version: Kane's theoryOr, if it feels like we inaugurate causal chains, then maybe we do.
 
  
:*2. Compatibilist and Contemporary Naturalist (Cultural Evolutionist) Approaches.
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:*2. Mele's Self-modification argument and the "Benji" response.
::*What we have, in normal circumstances is "agency." '''Agency is "an ability to act in the world and to make myself '''accountable''' to others."''' I do this by conforming my behavior to the idea of a "normally competent agent."
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::*We can self-modify, but some of our ability to do that is not up to us.
::*This sort of agency can have a completely naturalist account, especially if you include cultural evolution in your explanatory domain. The "normally competent agent" is also a product of culture. Since both nature and culture can be product of a deterministic universe, free will is compatible with determinism.  
 
::*Some compatibilist want to keep moral responsibility talk, while others want
 
  
:*'''The View from Cultural Evolution'''
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:*3. Growth of Knowledge argument - Sapolsky (604-605)
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::*The more we learn about human behavior, the harder it is to make retributive punishment and "end in itself".
  
:*Is Free Will a culturally defined concept for understanding our agency?
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:Lines of argument at the social and cultural levels:
  
::*Free will and MR as a cultural concept. Evidence from Henrich and others. Part of a cultural package that weakened kin bonds that might not have been seen as "choose-able".  Promotes idea of ''choosing'' a creed or code of conduct.  
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:*1. Knowledge of the social determinants of crime and dysfunctional behavior.
::*If FW and MR are cultural adaptations, some questions might follow:
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::*The more we know (also a growth of knowledge argument) about SES and the "epidemiology of crime" the harder it is to blame people absolutely and, hence, retributively. 
:::*Does this conception of free will still serve us well, especially in light of new knowledge about human (mis)behavior?
 
:::*Since we've "evolved" our ideas of hell and eternal damnation, shouldn't we "evolve" or ideas of MR and Punishment?
 
  
::*Sapolsky's example of biology in the leg fracture vs. other disorders.  But different levels of biology: behavior and culture are involved in our thinking about responsibility.
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:*2. Cultural evolution and the evolution of the idea of free will.  
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::*While we feel certain about free will, that certainty might also be a product of cultural psychology (Henrich).
  
:*'''How do we actually talk about Free Will?'''  Ordinary language analysis to the rescue...
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===Some arguments for retaining strong intuitions about Free Will===
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:*1. All of this "growth in knowledge" isn't terribly predictive of individual behavior. It may still be me who determines whether I follow the patterns predicting by knowledge of behavior.
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::*Hard to use science in court to say that someone "didn't do it."
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:*2. We have strong intuitions that we are the authors of our actions and people do typically accept responsibility for rule breaking.
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===How Can Someone be a Compatibilist?===
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:*Agency as a source of causal powers for normally competent individuals
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::*Even if determinism is true, normal human beings have agency. Agency is a causal power. The ability to control ourselves and affect the world around us.
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::*Agency includes our ability to "do what we want"; even if we lack ultimate powers to determine what we want.
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::*Agency is our capacity to control outcomes and take ownership of some of actions. 
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::*A normally competent agent (NCA) can learn the expectations of their society and conform to them.
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:*Free will looks less mysterious if you focus on our "agential capacities," rather than determinism. Consider these "ordinary language" statements. How is "choosing" and "free will" being used differently in each case?  Is this way of talking "compatible" with determinism?:
  
:*Ordinary language analysis -- We know what we mean by free will, whether it exists in libertarian form or not!  Maybe it's a cultural artefact.  Maybe we use mental modules related to Theory of Mind and governing "animate" objects. 
 
::*To warm up your intuitions that FW is a cultural concept, consider how adept we are in understanding these sentences: "ordinary language analysis"
 
 
::*I may choose to take up painting as a hobby.
 
::*I may choose to take up painting as a hobby.
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::*My grandmother had a big influence on me and that's why I chose to become a doctor.
 
::*I cannot choose to become a concert violinists at this point in my life.
 
::*I cannot choose to become a concert violinists at this point in my life.
 
::*I can choose whether or not I get ready for class.  
 
::*I can choose whether or not I get ready for class.  
 
::*I have no choice, I have to turn you in to the police.
 
::*I have no choice, I have to turn you in to the police.
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::*I can't choose not to love you, but I can't see you any more.
 
::*I can't choose not to love you, but I can't see you any more.
 
::*I've decided I don't love you any more. (aww...)
 
::*I've decided I don't love you any more. (aww...)
  
===Small Group Discussion===
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::*Parent to child: You can do anything you put your mind to.  (Yeah, right.)
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::*Parent to child: You need to try harder.
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::*Parent to (older) child: You're doing fine. Just keep that up.
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:*Note: We often talk about an action being "ours" even when we say we are determined or influenced to do that action.  Perhaps physics is the wrong place to look for free will?
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:*Problem: What sort of approach to punishment does this compatibilist picture support?
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===Sapolsky, Chapter 16: Biology, the Criminal Justice System, and (Oh, Why Not?) Free Will (580-613)  (Part Two 598-613)===
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:*'''But does anything useful actually come of this?'''
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::*Grounds for skepticism about using neuroscience in the courtroom:  Stephen Morse.  Neurolaw sceptic, ok with M’naugton, but thinks cases are rare.  Reviews valid criticisms he makes: 1. Juries might overvalue neuroscience images, 2. Descriptive vs. Normative. 
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::*Morse supports a strong distinction between causation and compulsion.  Causation is not itself an excuse.  But Sapolsky argues that this still involves walling off a “homunculus” and that’s not plausible. 
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::*Acknowledges an apparent problem.  Neuroscience typically can’t predict individual behavior very much.  Fictional exchange with prosecutor.  600
  
:*You now have a range of reasonable choices for thinking about moral responsibility and free will.  We've discussed the "MR and deserved punishment" view, the "Accountability and Penalties" view. While these line up roughly with traditional and naturalist views of free will, plenty of compatibilists believe in MR and punishmentWe've considered MR from a cultural evolutionist perspective as well.  Can you identify yourself among these choices?
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::*Explaining lots and Predicting Little
:*Return to the Potter and Guyger cases. Does punishment or penalty talk work best in these cases? 
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::*Kimberly Potter - the police officer who meant to tase Duante Wright, but mistakenly grabbed her gun and killed him instead.
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:*But is the lack of predictive power a problem in the argument?  S. works through some cases in which probability of prediction decreases, but no less likely that it could be a case of compulsion601
::*Amber Guyger - the police officer, off duty, who mistook her neighbor, Botham Jean, for an intruder and killed him.
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:*More cases:
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:*602: Important methodological point:  There's no less biology in the leg fracture vs. the other disorders, but level of biological explanation is different.  Leg fractures are less connected to culture. Behavior is multifactorial and heavily cultural. (Oh god, another Henrich digression. Free will has a history.) Example: how much does biology predict depression?  Factors are diverse biological mechanisms, including cultural factors. (But, point is, someone can be disable by depression, just like the leg fracture.)
::*A man has a heart attack / epileptic attack while driving and kills a pedestrian.  (Consider variations.)
 
::*A man is working two jobs to support a family, nods off at the wheel and kills a pedestrian.
 
::*A man knows his car is close to a dangerous malfunction.  When it occurs, he loses control and kills a pedestrian.
 
  
===Some Ways of Thinking about Just Punishment===
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:*Marvin Minsky, “Free will: internal forces I do not understand”. Sapolsky adds “yet”.
  
:*Some options for Theories of Punishment
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:*Neat charts showing historic trend to connect social behavior and biology in research journals. 604-605.
  
::*'''Retributive punishment''' / retributive deterrenceRequires very strong concept of MR and FW to be justRetribution is justified by "moral desert"It can also involve "social exclusion" -- making it hard for offenders to vote or hold a job.   
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:*If you still believe in mitigated free will:
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::*Case of Dramer and Springer and the spiritual explanation for epilepsy. Biblical version with Jesus.   
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::*Sapolsky imagines an Inquisitor (witch burner)Must be puzzled occasionally by fact pattern. Mom has epilepsy.   
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::*Growth of knowledge argument 607-608.  read listMost likely option is that our kids will look at us as idiots about moral responsibility and culpability.
  
::*'''Utilitarian models''' of punishment: General principle: Reducing harm to public and offender.   
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:*608: practical outcomes.  Not about letting violent criminals freeOn the biological view, punishment can’t be an end in itself (restoring balance). Retributive punishment is an end in itself. 
  
:::*Versions include: Public Health-Quarantine Model, Community welfare model (crime is a kind of welfare issue, also for communities), Rehabilitative approaches, Restorative justiceThese models can overlap and tend to assume that crime has natural causes that can either be mitigated through preventative welfare measures (addressing poverty and homelessness, for example) or through rehabilitation, confinement, and/or monitoringDoes not require a strong position on FW or MR, but these approaches can trigger liberty objections(Present discussion option here!  Could you imagine a criminal insisting on being treated retributively?  Maybe.)
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:*Brain imaging suggests culpability judgements activate the cool and cognitive dlPFC, but punishment judgements activate more emotional vmPFC.  “A frothy limbic state”. Makes sense that punishment is costlyBut we need to overcome our attachment to punishmentIt is involved in a lot of unjustified suffering.   
  
::*Distinguishing retributive punishment from penaltiesPunishment is about pain.  Penalties (like speeding and parking tickets) might also hurt, but they can be justified on utilitarian grounds (fewer accidents, etc.).
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:*Recaps the transition we've made with epilepsy 610.   
  
::*Grounding punishment in the consent of the punished"Thanks! I needed that!"
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:*Car free willA kind of ''reductio'' argument.
::*Try the "veil of ignorance" approach to finding just principles of punishment. (mention law review article)
 
  
:*We will be looking at how these models of punishment correlate with different political economies in Cavadino  reading next time.
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===Mistake/Accident Cases===
  
===Sapolsky, Chapter 16: Biology, the Criminal Justice System, and (Oh, Why Not?) Free Will (Part Two)===
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:*Generally, we don't hold people equally blameworthy for mistakes and accidents as for intentional wrongdoing.
  
:*Biology and neuroscience are explanatory, but not necessarily predictive of individual behaviors.   
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::*Kimberly Potter - police officer who mistook her taser and gun, killing a citizen.
:*See notes for part two above, especially '''Sapolsky's Warning''' at the end of the chapter.
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::*Amber Guyger - the police officer, off duty, who mistook her neighbor, Botham Jean, for an intruder and killed him.
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::*A man has a heart attack / epileptic attack while driving and kills a pedestrian(Consider variations.)
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::*A man is working two jobs to support a family, nods off at the wheel and kills a pedestrian.
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::*A man knows his car is close to a dangerous malfunction.  When it occurs, he loses control and kills a pedestrian.
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::*The tragic case of the man who left his baby in a hot car.
  
 
===Henrich, Joseph, "Hell, Free Will, and Moral Universalism"===
 
===Henrich, Joseph, "Hell, Free Will, and Moral Universalism"===
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:*The three innovations of moralizing religions are:
 
:*The three innovations of moralizing religions are:
::*contingent afterlife:
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::*'''contingent afterlife''': how you behave in this life determines your after life or next life
::*free will: encouraged follower to believe they could comply with moral code by acts of choice and will.  
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::*'''free will''': encouraged followers to believe they could comply with moral code by acts of choice and will.  
::*moral universalism:
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::*'''moral universalism''': moral rules are the same for all people. (Note how this overcomes groupish morality.)
  
 
:*The rest of the excerpt goes into evidence of the effects of each feature on social life.  The research related to free will is at top of p. 148.
 
:*The rest of the excerpt goes into evidence of the effects of each feature on social life.  The research related to free will is at top of p. 148.
  
 
:*What consequences, if any, does this research have for our thinking about the modern problems of free will and moral responsibility?
 
:*What consequences, if any, does this research have for our thinking about the modern problems of free will and moral responsibility?
::*1. Cultural variants on ways of thinking about agency make (or made, in the past) real differences in social morality.
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::*1. Cultural variants on ways of thinking about agency make (or made, in the past) real differences in social morality, whether or not they are metaphysically grounded. They work to the extent that people can actually think of themselves as having FW and thinking this way changes their behavior.  But this can also be oppressive if it overlooks the material conditions needed to develop competence.  
::*2. Free will has its origins in psychological adaptations that allow us to live in large societies.  But the concept seems to be at an extreme when it leads us to blame without desert.
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::*3. The philosopher's concern with the metaphysical problem of free will is hard to reconcile with the cultural utility of a belief in free will.  If a belief in FW motivates better outcomes, why do we care about it's metaphysical grounding? Should we be '''as-if Libertarians'''?
::*3. The philosopher's concern with the metaphysical problem of free will is hard to reconcile with the cultural utility of a belief in free will.  If FW is cultural why do we care about it's metaphysical grounding? It's grounded in evolved human social behaviors (culture).
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::*4. When you tell your future kids "You can do it if you try.  Don't let other people control your decisions.  What do you want to do with your life?" you may really be motivating them to take up a particular set of values to approach challenges.  But notice this is only valuable motivationally. At some point, your parents stopped saying this so much.  Instead, "you're doing fine..."
::*4. When you tell your future kids "You can do it if you try.  Don't let other people control your decisions.  What do you want to do with your life?" you may really be motivating them to take up a particular set of values to approach challenges.  But notice this is only valuable motivationally.
 

Latest revision as of 18:25, 30 November 2023

27: NOV 30. Limits on Responsibility and The "growth of knowledge" argument

Assigned

  • Sapolsky, Chapter 16: Biology, the Criminal Justice System, and (Oh, Why Not?) Free Will (580-613) (Part Two 598-613)
  • Henrich, Joseph, "Hell, Free Will, and Moral Universalism" from The WEIRDEST People on Earth p. 146-148, (2)
  • Over the next few classes, try to watch some of these:
  • Some videos/websites about prisons and incarceration:
  • Prison Policy Initiative Prison Policy Initiative]: A good up-to-date overview of prison facts and some popular myths about the US prison system. Updated to 2023!
  • The Atlantic, data visualization on incarceration of African Americans [1]
  • Data visualization on mass incarceration. [2]
  • Norwegian prison, [3]
  • US Supermax prison, “Red Onion” [4]
  • ”When kids do hard time,” Wabash Prison, [5]

In-class

  • Some limits on Ultimate Moral Responsibility
  • How can anyone be a compatibilist?
  • How should we treat people who make mistakes?

Some argument against Ultimate Moral Responsibility

Lines of argument regarding individual moral responsibility:
  • 1. Strawson's Impossibility Argument.
  • We cannot be "ultimately" responsible for how we are. What follows from his argument?
  • 2. Mele's Self-modification argument and the "Benji" response.
  • We can self-modify, but some of our ability to do that is not up to us.
  • 3. Growth of Knowledge argument - Sapolsky (604-605)
  • The more we learn about human behavior, the harder it is to make retributive punishment and "end in itself".
Lines of argument at the social and cultural levels:
  • 1. Knowledge of the social determinants of crime and dysfunctional behavior.
  • The more we know (also a growth of knowledge argument) about SES and the "epidemiology of crime" the harder it is to blame people absolutely and, hence, retributively.
  • 2. Cultural evolution and the evolution of the idea of free will.
  • While we feel certain about free will, that certainty might also be a product of cultural psychology (Henrich).

Some arguments for retaining strong intuitions about Free Will

  • 1. All of this "growth in knowledge" isn't terribly predictive of individual behavior. It may still be me who determines whether I follow the patterns predicting by knowledge of behavior.
  • Hard to use science in court to say that someone "didn't do it."
  • 2. We have strong intuitions that we are the authors of our actions and people do typically accept responsibility for rule breaking.

How Can Someone be a Compatibilist?

  • Agency as a source of causal powers for normally competent individuals
  • Even if determinism is true, normal human beings have agency. Agency is a causal power. The ability to control ourselves and affect the world around us.
  • Agency includes our ability to "do what we want"; even if we lack ultimate powers to determine what we want.
  • Agency is our capacity to control outcomes and take ownership of some of actions.
  • A normally competent agent (NCA) can learn the expectations of their society and conform to them.
  • Free will looks less mysterious if you focus on our "agential capacities," rather than determinism. Consider these "ordinary language" statements. How is "choosing" and "free will" being used differently in each case? Is this way of talking "compatible" with determinism?:
  • I may choose to take up painting as a hobby.
  • My grandmother had a big influence on me and that's why I chose to become a doctor.
  • I cannot choose to become a concert violinists at this point in my life.
  • I can choose whether or not I get ready for class.
  • I have no choice, I have to turn you in to the police.
  • I can't choose not to love you, but I can't see you any more.
  • I've decided I don't love you any more. (aww...)
  • Parent to child: You can do anything you put your mind to. (Yeah, right.)
  • Parent to child: You need to try harder.
  • Parent to (older) child: You're doing fine. Just keep that up.
  • Note: We often talk about an action being "ours" even when we say we are determined or influenced to do that action. Perhaps physics is the wrong place to look for free will?
  • Problem: What sort of approach to punishment does this compatibilist picture support?

Sapolsky, Chapter 16: Biology, the Criminal Justice System, and (Oh, Why Not?) Free Will (580-613) (Part Two 598-613)

  • But does anything useful actually come of this?
  • Grounds for skepticism about using neuroscience in the courtroom: Stephen Morse. Neurolaw sceptic, ok with M’naugton, but thinks cases are rare. Reviews valid criticisms he makes: 1. Juries might overvalue neuroscience images, 2. Descriptive vs. Normative.
  • Morse supports a strong distinction between causation and compulsion. Causation is not itself an excuse. But Sapolsky argues that this still involves walling off a “homunculus” and that’s not plausible.
  • Acknowledges an apparent problem. Neuroscience typically can’t predict individual behavior very much. Fictional exchange with prosecutor. 600
  • Explaining lots and Predicting Little
  • But is the lack of predictive power a problem in the argument? S. works through some cases in which probability of prediction decreases, but no less likely that it could be a case of compulsion. 601
  • 602: Important methodological point: There's no less biology in the leg fracture vs. the other disorders, but level of biological explanation is different. Leg fractures are less connected to culture. Behavior is multifactorial and heavily cultural. (Oh god, another Henrich digression. Free will has a history.) Example: how much does biology predict depression? Factors are diverse biological mechanisms, including cultural factors. (But, point is, someone can be disable by depression, just like the leg fracture.)
  • Marvin Minsky, “Free will: internal forces I do not understand”. Sapolsky adds “yet”.
  • Neat charts showing historic trend to connect social behavior and biology in research journals. 604-605.
  • If you still believe in mitigated free will:
  • Case of Dramer and Springer and the spiritual explanation for epilepsy. Biblical version with Jesus.
  • Sapolsky imagines an Inquisitor (witch burner). Must be puzzled occasionally by fact pattern. Mom has epilepsy.
  • Growth of knowledge argument 607-608. read list. Most likely option is that our kids will look at us as idiots about moral responsibility and culpability.
  • 608: practical outcomes. Not about letting violent criminals free. On the biological view, punishment can’t be an end in itself (restoring balance). Retributive punishment is an end in itself.
  • Brain imaging suggests culpability judgements activate the cool and cognitive dlPFC, but punishment judgements activate more emotional vmPFC. “A frothy limbic state”. Makes sense that punishment is costly. But we need to overcome our attachment to punishment. It is involved in a lot of unjustified suffering.
  • Recaps the transition we've made with epilepsy 610.
  • Car free will. A kind of reductio argument.

Mistake/Accident Cases

  • Generally, we don't hold people equally blameworthy for mistakes and accidents as for intentional wrongdoing.
  • Kimberly Potter - police officer who mistook her taser and gun, killing a citizen.
  • Amber Guyger - the police officer, off duty, who mistook her neighbor, Botham Jean, for an intruder and killed him.
  • A man has a heart attack / epileptic attack while driving and kills a pedestrian. (Consider variations.)
  • A man is working two jobs to support a family, nods off at the wheel and kills a pedestrian.
  • A man knows his car is close to a dangerous malfunction. When it occurs, he loses control and kills a pedestrian.
  • The tragic case of the man who left his baby in a hot car.

Henrich, Joseph, "Hell, Free Will, and Moral Universalism"

  • This excerpt from The WEIRDEST People in the World comes in the context of a section on "universal moralizing gods" which characterize the major world religions (though Buddhism requires some discussion). H's theory is that this cultural innovation in religions allows societies to grow, solving the problems associated with living with so many strangers, something our evolved psychology did not really prepare us for.
  • The three innovations of moralizing religions are:
  • contingent afterlife: how you behave in this life determines your after life or next life
  • free will: encouraged followers to believe they could comply with moral code by acts of choice and will.
  • moral universalism: moral rules are the same for all people. (Note how this overcomes groupish morality.)
  • The rest of the excerpt goes into evidence of the effects of each feature on social life. The research related to free will is at top of p. 148.
  • What consequences, if any, does this research have for our thinking about the modern problems of free will and moral responsibility?
  • 1. Cultural variants on ways of thinking about agency make (or made, in the past) real differences in social morality, whether or not they are metaphysically grounded. They work to the extent that people can actually think of themselves as having FW and thinking this way changes their behavior. But this can also be oppressive if it overlooks the material conditions needed to develop competence.
  • 3. The philosopher's concern with the metaphysical problem of free will is hard to reconcile with the cultural utility of a belief in free will. If a belief in FW motivates better outcomes, why do we care about it's metaphysical grounding? Should we be as-if Libertarians?
  • 4. When you tell your future kids "You can do it if you try. Don't let other people control your decisions. What do you want to do with your life?" you may really be motivating them to take up a particular set of values to approach challenges. But notice this is only valuable motivationally. At some point, your parents stopped saying this so much. Instead, "you're doing fine..."