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==October 5: Taoism==
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==11: OCT 6==
  
:*I found the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy article "Zhuangzi" really helpful.  [[User:WikiSysop|Alfino]] 16:08, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
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===Assigned===
 
===Definitions===
 
:I don't know about you guys, but i have no idea what half of the Taoism terms mean in the reading. So, i figured maybe a little conceptual framework might help. Here is a short list of Taoism definitions that helped me figure out what was going on. i reproduced some of the immediately relavent ones below. If you want to look up your own, here is the website that i am drawing these definitions.[http://www.religionfacts.com/taoism/glossary.htm#t] Im not sure exactly how accurate these definitions are so if you think one is wrong, please change it. . . 
 
  
:1. Tao: the unchanged principle behind the universe. The unproduced producer of all that is (unmoved mover?) The Tao-Te-Ching describes it as "something formlessly fashioned, that existed before Heaven and Earth."
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:*Haidt, Chapter 5, "Beyond WEIRD Morality" (17)
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:*Writing exercise: How WEIRD is Morality?  
  
:2. Te: Power or virtue
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:3. Yu: Being
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:4. Ching: "Vital essence"
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===Final Stage of Sapolsky Writing Assignment===
  
:5. "The Way": Refers to a specific spiritual discipline. It can also be loosely translated to doctrine or principle.  
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:Please add to the list if you come across any more. (I plan on adding more as i read) [[User:Kobywarren|Kobywarren]] 23:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
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===The Ways of Taoism - Benesch===
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===Some samples from Henrich's, "The Weirdest People on Earth"===
  
:Definitely helps to define the terms as Koby did above, here are some more I found that relate to the Benesch article.
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:*p. 25: "Who Am I?" task.  Show charts
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:*p. 28: sociocentric vs. individualistic
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:*p. 34: guilt vs. shame
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:*p. 44: impersonal honesty research (recall Ariely).
  
:* Lao-tzu (Laozi) - also the name of the first foundational text in Taoism
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===Haidt, Chapter 5, "Beyond WEIRD Morality"===
::A - referred to as the 'Old Master', Laozi is thought to be a fictional entity, written by librarians wanting to remain anonymous during the warring states period, and in religious forms of Taoism he is thought to be a supreme diety
 
::B - primarily concerned with the Way, and how it is expressed in ''te'', through ''ziran'' and ''wuwei''
 
::: Te: literally translated as virtue, is the means through which the Tao becomes manifest and actualized
 
::: Ziran: literally translated as naturalness
 
::: Wuwei: literally translated as nonaction, it is the ideal way in which rulers should act as presented by Laozi
 
::: Wu: literally translated as Not-Being. does not mean nothingness, but rather wu is an immense void containing all potentialities
 
:* Chuang-tzu (Zhuangzi) - also the name of the second foundational text in Taoism
 
::A - views the Way as an idea, grounded in a single principle, that cannot be sufficiently explained by words, and guides the spontatneous processes of everything
 
  
'''Note:''' - while Laozi and Zhuangzi are both categorized as mystical Toaism, they approach Toaism very differently
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====WEIRD Morality====
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:*WEIRD morality is the morality of Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, Democratic cultures
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::*just as likely to be bothered by taboo violations, but more likely to set aside feelings of disgust and allow violations
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::*only group with majority allowing chicken story violation.
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::*"the weirder you are the more likely you are to see the world in terms of separate objects, rather than relationships"  "sociocentric" moralities vs. individualistic moralities; Enlightenment moralities of Kant and Mill are rationalist, individualist, and universalist. 
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::*survey data on East/West differences in sentence completion: "I am..."
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::*framed-line task 97
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:*Kantian and Millian ethical thought is rationalist, rule based, and universalist.  Just the ethical theory you would expect from the culture. 
  
:* Huang-lao - this form of Toaism which is concerned with the philosophy of leadership was named after the Yellow Emperor, Huang Di, as well as Laozi, therefore Huang Lao
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====A 3 channel moral matrix====
::A - the Huang-Lao philosophers believed that an ideal civilization where peace and harmony existed could evolve when the leaders of the country accorded their Te (virtue, inner nature) with the Tao (nature of things)  
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:*Schweder's anthropology: ethics of autonomy, community, divinity 99-100 - gloss each...
--[[User:Lars|Lars]]
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::*claims Schweder's theory predicts responses on taboo violation tests, is descriptively accurate.
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::*ethic of divinity: body as temple vs. playground
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::*vertical dimension to values.  explains reactions to flag desecration, piss Christ, thought exp: desecration of liberal icons.  (Note connection to contemporary conflicts, such as the Charlie Hebdot massacre.)  
  
===Waley, "Chaung Tzu"===
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====Making Sense of Moral/Cultural Difference====
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:*'''Haidt's Bhubaneswar experience''': diverse (intense) continua of moral values related to purity. (opposite of disgust). Confusing at first, but notice that he started to like his hosts (elephant) and then started to think about how their values might work.  Stop and think about how a mind might create this.  Detail about airline passenger.
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:*Theorizing with Paul Rozin on the right model for thinking about moral foundations: "Our theory, in brief" (103)
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:*American politics often about sense of "sacrilege", not just about defining rights (autonomy).  Not just harm, but types of moral disgust.
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:*'''Stepping out of the Matrix''':  H's metaphor for seeing his own cultural moral values as more "contingent" than before, when it felt like the natural advocacy of what seem true and right.  Reports growing self awareness of liberal orientation of intellectual culture in relation to Shweder's view.  Social conservatives made more sense to him after studying in India.
  
====Stories of Chaung Tzu and Hui Tzu====
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===Small Group Discussion===
 
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:*Discussion questions:
:*the tree no one wants to cut.
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::*Does it make sense to talk about "stepping out of a matrix"? Is this a temporary thing?  What value might it have in your experience?
 
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::*Do you have a parallel story to Haidt's? (Mention travel experiences.)
:*story of the huge gourd Hui Tzu complains about.  CT: deal better with your success. 
 
:*story of family with lotion secret --> value depends on context
 
:*"passionless" accusation q. p. 5 (very much like stoicism)
 
:*p. 6.  famous story of Chaung Tzu's wife dying.  --> shouldn't suffer from emotions.
 
:*p. 8. simple poignant story about loss of Hui Tzu.
 
:*Waley --- parody is a method here.
 
:*[seems like a method of alternative possibilities here and on p. 7]
 
:*"Three in the morning" p. 11
 
:*Chaung Tzu on book learning p. 15.
 
:*p. 16 Lao Tzu presents vision to Confucious
 
:*p. 15-20 on how we fail.
 
:*Confucious call out the sister of Brigand Chiu - gotes to his camp.  Brigan Chi in a rage alot - speech of Brian Chih and Confucious' reaction. Owww! p. 15
 
 
 
:*Death
 
::*lyrical ecstatic acceptance of nature (+ death)
 
::*stories about what we should think of death.  p. 31
 
::*32 Note scepticism
 
 
 
:*The Cicada and the Wren
 
::*-->things of one nature can't imagine what it would be to be a different nature (sounds like Nagel?)
 
 
 
:*Autumn Floods  --- huh? please fill in!!
 
:*p. 34. What it's like to experience Chaung Tzu.
 
:*p. 34-35: Frog and the turtle of the Eastern Sea.
 
 
 
:*Yoga
 
::*the greatest traveller
 
::*38-39  - imgae of being "stuck" in development  --> how to motivate the "stuck"
 
 
 
:*King Mu and the Wizard
 
::*wizard take king on "journey of the soul"
 
 
 
:*Yang Sheng
 
::*nurturing life - "conserving vital energy"
 
::*1)Secrets of the Chamber
 
::*2)Breath Control
 
::*3)Yoga
 
::*4)Diet
 
 
 
:*p. 44 statement of Tao -- WISE MAN q. 41-45
 
 
 
:*from Chaung Tzu  - Principles of Life Nature
 
 
 
::*Ting applies tao to carving
 
::*Ting -- knife never goes dull.  Yeah!
 
 
 
:*The Taoist and the Tao
 
::*Man of Extreme Power
 
::*No systematic exposition of Tao in Chaung Tzu
 
::*53-4:  refusing recognition as a Sage  -- being "honored" is a bad thing....
 

Latest revision as of 19:51, 6 October 2020

11: OCT 6

Assigned

  • Haidt, Chapter 5, "Beyond WEIRD Morality" (17)
  • Writing exercise: How WEIRD is Morality?

Brief Survey on Student Engagement in Hybrid course delivery

  • Please take the following anonymous survey.

Final Stage of Sapolsky Writing Assignment

  • Stage 4: Back-evaluation: After you receive your peer comments and my evaluation, take a few minutes to fill out this quick "back evaluation" rating form: [1]. Fill out the form for each reviewer, but not Alfino. Up to 10 points, in Points.
  • Back evaluations are due Thursday, October 8, 11:59pm.

Some samples from Henrich's, "The Weirdest People on Earth"

  • p. 25: "Who Am I?" task. Show charts
  • p. 28: sociocentric vs. individualistic
  • p. 34: guilt vs. shame
  • p. 44: impersonal honesty research (recall Ariely).

Haidt, Chapter 5, "Beyond WEIRD Morality"

WEIRD Morality

  • WEIRD morality is the morality of Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, Democratic cultures
  • just as likely to be bothered by taboo violations, but more likely to set aside feelings of disgust and allow violations
  • only group with majority allowing chicken story violation.
  • "the weirder you are the more likely you are to see the world in terms of separate objects, rather than relationships" "sociocentric" moralities vs. individualistic moralities; Enlightenment moralities of Kant and Mill are rationalist, individualist, and universalist.
  • survey data on East/West differences in sentence completion: "I am..."
  • framed-line task 97
  • Kantian and Millian ethical thought is rationalist, rule based, and universalist. Just the ethical theory you would expect from the culture.

A 3 channel moral matrix

  • Schweder's anthropology: ethics of autonomy, community, divinity 99-100 - gloss each...
  • claims Schweder's theory predicts responses on taboo violation tests, is descriptively accurate.
  • ethic of divinity: body as temple vs. playground
  • vertical dimension to values. explains reactions to flag desecration, piss Christ, thought exp: desecration of liberal icons. (Note connection to contemporary conflicts, such as the Charlie Hebdot massacre.)

Making Sense of Moral/Cultural Difference

  • Haidt's Bhubaneswar experience: diverse (intense) continua of moral values related to purity. (opposite of disgust). Confusing at first, but notice that he started to like his hosts (elephant) and then started to think about how their values might work. Stop and think about how a mind might create this. Detail about airline passenger.
  • Theorizing with Paul Rozin on the right model for thinking about moral foundations: "Our theory, in brief" (103)
  • American politics often about sense of "sacrilege", not just about defining rights (autonomy). Not just harm, but types of moral disgust.
  • Stepping out of the Matrix: H's metaphor for seeing his own cultural moral values as more "contingent" than before, when it felt like the natural advocacy of what seem true and right. Reports growing self awareness of liberal orientation of intellectual culture in relation to Shweder's view. Social conservatives made more sense to him after studying in India.

Small Group Discussion

  • Discussion questions:
  • Does it make sense to talk about "stepping out of a matrix"? Is this a temporary thing? What value might it have in your experience?
  • Do you have a parallel story to Haidt's? (Mention travel experiences.)