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:*Could we write proverbs for our time?
 
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==November 10, 2010==
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===Ecclesiastes===
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:*major theme:  human existence is full of vanity and "striving after the wind".  "nothing new under the sun"  -- strong sense of man's insignificance
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:*2 -- Speaker built great wealth and works.  still didn't help.
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:*2:24 -- Crucial argument -- follow
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:*3 -- Positive Theory -- "For everything there is a season"
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:*3 -- God gave us the idea of eternity, but also limits our knowledge.  -- also resignation at futility 3:19-23
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:*4 -- Beginning of proverbial advice.  Review for substance and tone.
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===Job===
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:*Review story:  Job, God, Eliphaz, Bildad, Zophar, Elihu -- importance of devil's wager.
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:*What is the lesson of Job? 
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::*1.  Your best effort to lead a justified and upright life might not save you from profound suffering. AND
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::*2.  You can't blame God for it, but you don't have to blame yourself either.
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:*Important that God condemns the friends' approach and supports Job's

Revision as of 18:25, 10 November 2010

November 8, 2010

Estes, "Proverbs"

  • p. 219: definition and properties of proverbs.
  • Wisdom divides into "spaiental, moral, relgious" dimension in religious culture of Judaism.
  • Judaic belief in natural order. p. 222
  • Values/themes expressed in Proverbs
  • Cheerfulness --
  • Contentment -- in marriage, with God
  • Decisions -- interesting connection decision making chapter in Hall
  • Diligence -- 20:5 -- compares well with Buddhism, Stoics, Epicureans, q. 235, "The diligent person..."
  • Friendship -- 237: note integration of vertical and horizontal, 237.
  • Generosity -- consider some functions of generosity: signalling commitment to group, lack of greed, reciprocity: "in 21:13: "If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered."
  • Humility --
  • Kindness --
  • Parenting -- note emphasis on training
  • Purity -- Hebrew "heart" (like gen in Chinese Philosophy) - image/source of goodness of motivation
  • Righteousness --
  • Truthfulness --
  • Note the connection and contrast of these themes with some of the other traditions we have looked at.

Proverbs

  • Divides, rhetorically at Book 10. First 10 books seem like instruction (Estes). Note misogyny. Women are temptresses.
  • Look at Proverb form: from Estes: contrast, enigmatic, compresses, pith, uses analogy, understood to be generalizations.
  • analogies and similes: 26:7ff (also literary convention in Illiad)
  • Themes
  • Wise lead orderly lives in fear of the Lord and they proper because of it.
  • Attitude of the wise is consistent and cheerful, even in the face of poverty. 15:15-17, also 19:1
  • Proverbs offer integration of behavioral norms we should hold ourselves to with a vertical and transcendent moral order.
  • Could we write proverbs for our time?


November 10, 2010

Ecclesiastes

  • major theme: human existence is full of vanity and "striving after the wind". "nothing new under the sun" -- strong sense of man's insignificance
  • 2 -- Speaker built great wealth and works. still didn't help.
  • 2:24 -- Crucial argument -- follow
  • 3 -- Positive Theory -- "For everything there is a season"
  • 3 -- God gave us the idea of eternity, but also limits our knowledge. -- also resignation at futility 3:19-23
  • 4 -- Beginning of proverbial advice. Review for substance and tone.

Job

  • Review story: Job, God, Eliphaz, Bildad, Zophar, Elihu -- importance of devil's wager.
  • What is the lesson of Job?
  • 1. Your best effort to lead a justified and upright life might not save you from profound suffering. AND
  • 2. You can't blame God for it, but you don't have to blame yourself either.
  • Important that God condemns the friends' approach and supports Job's