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==3. JAN 27==
  
===Assigned===
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===Assigned Work===
  
:*Sapolsky, Chapter 10: The Evolution of Human Behavior 328-387 (59).  For this class read only pages 354-374. 
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:*Sonnenbergs, C 6, "A Gut Feeling"
  
 
===In-class===
 
===In-class===
  
:*More rubric training
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:*Practicality: Comments on food budgets and variety
:*In class discussion of group selection
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:*Satisfaction/Practicality/Nutrition: A 50cent egg lesson - $10/loaf bread.
  
===Some lecture notes on Sapolsky, Chapter 10: The Evolution of Human Behavior 354-374===
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===The NSP Model for Dietary Change: What Should your Food Budget Be?===
  
:*See previous class for reading notes on this chapter
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::*Some country comparisons: [https://www.vox.com/2014/7/6/5874499/map-heres-how-much-every-country-spends-on-food] and within the US: [https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistics-charting-the-essentials/food-prices-and-spending/].  Generally, American's spend under 10% of disposable income on food vs. about 14-17% for Italians, French, etc.  These are rough comparisons because of wealth effects and geographic effects. Norwegians are wealthier than Americans, Italians a bit less wealthy, but Mediterranean cultures have closer access to inexpensive fresh food.
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::*At $20/hr, if you spend 14% of net monthly income on food, you would have about $400 to spend.  You also use this figures to think about what a just or "living wage" would be. That $20 wage certainly cannot fund high rent prices and a healthy plant based diet.
  
:*'''How can cooperation get started and become stable?''' 353-
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===The NSP Model for Dietary Change: Three 50cent egg lessons===
::*In other words, how does "tit for tat" survive among defectors? Coalitions, green beard effects.
 
::*Sometimes natural event cut a group off.  Inbreeding promotes stronger kin bonds. That group may outperform others once they out migrate.  (Give example from Henrich of Inuits with meat sharing behaviors.  A better "cooperative package".) 
 
::*Effects of ind. selection, kin selection, and reciprocal altruism:
 
:::*Tournament vs. Pair bonding  - lots of traits and behaviors follow from sexual dimorphism.  This also happens in degrees.
 
:::*Parent-Offspring competition - in spite of kin selection, there are some "zero sum" situations bt parents and offspring.  parent-offspring weaning conflict and mother-fetus conflict. Over insulin. Dad even has a vote through paternal "imprinted genes," which promote fetal growth at expense of mom.  (Intersexual Genetic Conflict)
 
  
:*Multilevel Selection MLS
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:*A $10 loaf of bread?
::*Remember the "bad" group selection from the beginning of the chapter?  Group selection returns in the last few decades.  (Tell story of visits with Bio prof friends over the years.)
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:*Quality differences in pineapple.
::*Genotypic and Phenotypic levels of explanation - unibrows.
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:*Ultra-processed tomato sauce [https://www.amazon.com/Prego-Pasta-Sauce-Traditional-oz/dp/B00IAE65L6/ref=asc_df_B00IAE65L6?mcid=e671b47927bd3419baec03b60c8bb28c&hvocijid=1847674066337950316-B00IAE65L6-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1847674066337950316&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033780&hvtargid=pla-2281435175938&th=1] v. canned, imported from Italy [https://www.amazon.com/Cento-Marzano-Organic-Peeled-Tomatoes/dp/B0045W29XK/ref=sr_1_1_pp?crid=2R25TRVDXCSTQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.K1vqmE2uLAy598ZkSCPw2qmM9GzOVBneR0RNsg2Zvx0HPLSdt06ELfNgwrg3WQImT_pb_29q5lqJ6sPuPun3Fpq0Bfz_GrkZItoV459Z359FnWfbiEHmOm6TZpgoHtTGlDPwbarY_NP2oOBMQ3Y9XIg3B5Wgu1q11BLYeVz57YjpHkDItzwT-KVeERfsAspCantkS3loajmbsODYziKIX5ozQoDXZ6vm_aCu3maeewiDPrm1HPko324kdo1-aUFCjMcDfz9R9mOGSkaGolzwSyae-Q_thuXWpjCNlucYMtARFtrln4ZolMLTFR9BJ1wrwZDtNgScsL_U8oYHGgO3KAi8P8jhhYJezrpzxkGq7pw.zf9gmKUsKHXi-4FX5ddDjl5EYfQP1OS75GjR4iIplfI&dib_tag=se&keywords=cento+san+marzano+canned+tomatoes&qid=1737997646&rdc=1&s=grocery&sprefix=Cento+%2Cgrocery%2C261&sr=1-1]
::*Organism (expressed individual) is a vehicle of the genome, but the genome has alot to say about how the organism turns out. .  
 
::*Big debate in Biology. Three positions: 1. Dawkins took the "selfish gene" view that the best level of explanation is individual genes. 2. Others say the genome - "a chicken is an egg's way of making another egg" (It's the whole genome travelling through evolutionary "space".); finally, 3. Others like Gould take the phenotype.  After all, it's visible to the world.  Selection could operate on a single phenotypic trait or the whole individual.  Dawkins cake metaphor. 362.  (So that's really four levels of selection.)
 
::*'''Four levels and counting'''. 
 
:::*Fifth level: neo-group selection - the idea that some heritable traits are maladaptive for the individual, but increase the group's fitness (note difference from the bad old group selection).
 
::::*Examples:
 
:::::*Encouraging patriotism might lead you to enlist, taking a fitness risk that we benefit from.
 
:::::*Jailing someone for their reproductive life is a serious fitness hit, but we're better off with murderers locked up.
 
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::*Neo-group selection happens when groups impose fitness costs or benefits on members or sub-groups.
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===The NSP Model for Dietary Change: Comparing notes on variety expectations===
:::*Postive (fitness benefits): zags helping zags, . 
 
:::*Negative for some, positive for others(fitness costs): Slavery, racism, class bias, criminal punishment, patriotism, heroism, priests.
 
  
:*Some scientists agree that neo-group selection can occur, but think it's rare. Sapolsky points out that it is not rare in humans, due to Green Beard effects.
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:*Today we will start discussing how the NSP model helps us think about dietary change.
  
:*Remember "Green Beard" effects from p. 341 -- a thought experiment in extending/recognizing kin.  With neo-group, we go further, and hypothesize that we can form groups around almost anything (sport teams in an imaginary baseball league).  Human mind does not limit partiality or commitment to kin or even social group. 
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:*[[Nutrition, Satisfaction, Practicality and Dietary Change]]
  
:*Where do we fit in? AND US?
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:*General “false practicality” point:  How practical is the drive-through fast food option?  How much time does it take?  How does it makes you feel while eating, after eating?  Do you notice blood sugar spikes from ff?  How long until you feel hunger again?
::*We're bit of chimp and a bit of bonoboMen 10% larger, 20% heavier than womenSlight dimorphism. Not quite pair-bonding, not quite tournament
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::*'''US and Individual Selection''': Example of divorce: natural experiment when cultural taboos are lifted. Note that increased divorce rates are confined to the same percentage of populationLift culture and you get to see who the "less pair-bonding" people are! Likewise with historically powerful (and not very romantic) rulersPoint: with absolute power, tyrants often adopt extreme reproductive behaviors with many hundreds of women, if possible.
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:*Small group exercise.  Today we’ll focus on some “Satisfaction-Practicality” connections relevant to designing / re-designing your diet.  Specifically, consider these questions as you head into small group discussion to hear others’ approaches and thinking.
::*'''US and Kin selection''': Still very powerful, most feuds are clan based, but we can go to war against kin, and we give to strangers. We can be disgusted by people who betray their families: Story of Pavlik Morozov, 368.   368: study about preferring dog to x, y, zvmPFC involved.
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::*Why do humans deviate from kin selection so muchBiologists also want to find '''mechanisms'''.  Animals recognize kin by MHC or imprinted genesWe do it cognitively. Much more flexibility.
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::*How much variety do you expect from breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Make a list.
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::*How many different dinners would you need in your repertoire to feel like you had plenty of good choices? What is involved in "provisioning" those dinners?
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::*Types of variety:
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:::*I want to come home knowing that I can choose from X different dinners depending on mood and conditions.  (Home menu model)
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:::*I want my shopping to give me X dinners to choose from.  It’s ok if variety decreases as the week goes by.  (Variety Shopping model)
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:::*I’m ok scheduling each dinner by the days of the week.  (Days of week meal planning.)
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::*Other variety considerations:
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:::*I don’t want to repeat meals much within a week.
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:::*I’m fine eating the same thing for 2-3 nights or alternating 2 dinners over 4 days.
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:::*I look for variety seasonally.
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:::*I can eat the same breakfast for months, but then I need to change it.
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::*Other sources of variety
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:::*Seasonal rotations -
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:::*Preparation variety - three pastas - tomato, primavera, ceci(!).
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:::*Make-shift dinners(I can sometimes just make a salad and side veg for dinner.) Note the nutrition/practicality issues hereEasy to do and very practical if you are on top of your nutrition. You could add a protein shake.
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===The Enteric-Central Nervous System Axis===
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[[file:Microbiota-gut-Brain image2.jpg]]
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===Sonnenbergs, C 6, "A Gut Feeling"===
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:*'''The Brain-Gut Axis'''
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::*Documents the two-way comm bt brain and gut (enteric nervous system). Gut brain is "listening" in on the trillions of microbes in the gut.   
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::*Central nervous system (sympathetic and parsympathetic).  Autonomic functions like heart rate include "transit rate" of food, secretion of acid in stomach and mucus in intestines.  Hypothalmoic-ituitary adrenal axis (HPA) controls hormones that affect digestion. 
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::*Gut bacteria can influence our perception of the world and behavior:
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::*serotonin production
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::*toxplasma gondii (rodents and cats)
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::*microbe free mice are bigger risk takers. Critical phase in correcting for this.
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::*mice with impaired microbiota had worse memory (141)
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::*Speculate symbiotic relationship -- microbes likely improve fitness through risk aversion and memory.
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::*Mechanisms -- gut bacteria produce chemicals that go into blood stream. 
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:*'''The Personality Transplant'''
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::*More evidence of effects on perception and behavior:
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::*2011 McMaster study: fecal transplants between anxious and gregarious strains of mice partially reversed behaviorMechanisms: Brain-derived neurotropic factor (BDNF) - associated with depression, schizophrenia, and OCD.  Gregarious mice has increase in BDNF after transplant. Intermediate mechanisms not completely clear. "How can a bacteria at the end of your digestive tract change the expression of a protein at the top of your skull?"
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:*'''An unsupervised drug factory'''
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::*144: MACS (microbiotically available carbs) produce SCFAs, but also many other compounds, including toxins that normal kidneys filter.  Lots to learn. Some stimulate appetite.  Many products may be neutural with respect to fitness.  They imagine a hypothetical scenario in which a pectin digesting bacterium takes up residence in your gut.  Maybe it has mutated to also stimulate your desire for fruit. 
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:*'''The Microbiota's Toxic Waste'''
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::*Hepatic encephalopathy -- treatments target microbes that produce toxins. Earlier treatments required removing some length of intestines. 
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::*TMAO - trimethylamine-N-oxide. produced by microbes. implicated in cardiovascular disease.  Red meat and fatty foods increase TMAO.  Vegans and vegetarians have low TMAO production.  Study on long term vegan who eats a steak.  Still low TMAO.  Might be lacking those microbes.  (might argue for low meat consumption as nearly healthful as total meat abstinence). 
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:*'''Two-way communication between "brains"'''
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::*Stress, IBS, Autism, and angry faces
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::*Induce stress in mice and their microbiota change. Threats cause symp n.s. to do lots of things, including slowing motility and digestion.  (maybe to prep us for action)
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::*Some stress events have long term effect on microbiota. 150
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::*IBS - read - could be a stress induced imbalance that is hard to correct because it gives you MB that also induce stressalso heightened pain perception. Read at 151.  
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::*Some evidence in animal models that probiotics can help with psychological problems (psychobiotics).  Some studies in humans suggest this as wellBetter studies needed.
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:*'''Chemical spills out of the gut'''
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::*ASD - autism spectrum disorders. Increasing dramatically. Often associated with gut symptoms[https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html] Note connection to rise of industrial diets!
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::*ASD research: 2013 Caltech studies by Mazmanian - looked at maternal immune response to infection during pregnancy.  Treatment with b. fragilis helped somewhat in mice, both with leaky gut and behavioral symptoms.  Effect might involve other microbes.  B. fragilis affected over 100 other compounds in blood.  Human/mice diffs are significant hereCaution.  
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:*'''Fermented Foods'''
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::*2013 UCLA fMRI study on probiotic yogurt and response to negative facial emotions.

Latest revision as of 21:57, 27 January 2025

3. JAN 27

Assigned Work

  • Sonnenbergs, C 6, "A Gut Feeling"

In-class

  • Practicality: Comments on food budgets and variety
  • Satisfaction/Practicality/Nutrition: A 50cent egg lesson - $10/loaf bread.

The NSP Model for Dietary Change: What Should your Food Budget Be?

  • Some country comparisons: [1] and within the US: [2]. Generally, American's spend under 10% of disposable income on food vs. about 14-17% for Italians, French, etc. These are rough comparisons because of wealth effects and geographic effects. Norwegians are wealthier than Americans, Italians a bit less wealthy, but Mediterranean cultures have closer access to inexpensive fresh food.
  • At $20/hr, if you spend 14% of net monthly income on food, you would have about $400 to spend. You also use this figures to think about what a just or "living wage" would be. That $20 wage certainly cannot fund high rent prices and a healthy plant based diet.

The NSP Model for Dietary Change: Three 50cent egg lessons

  • A $10 loaf of bread?
  • Quality differences in pineapple.
  • Ultra-processed tomato sauce [3] v. canned, imported from Italy [4]

The NSP Model for Dietary Change: Comparing notes on variety expectations

  • Today we will start discussing how the NSP model helps us think about dietary change.
  • General “false practicality” point: How practical is the drive-through fast food option? How much time does it take? How does it makes you feel while eating, after eating? Do you notice blood sugar spikes from ff? How long until you feel hunger again?
  • Small group exercise. Today we’ll focus on some “Satisfaction-Practicality” connections relevant to designing / re-designing your diet. Specifically, consider these questions as you head into small group discussion to hear others’ approaches and thinking.
  • How much variety do you expect from breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Make a list.
  • How many different dinners would you need in your repertoire to feel like you had plenty of good choices? What is involved in "provisioning" those dinners?
  • Types of variety:
  • I want to come home knowing that I can choose from X different dinners depending on mood and conditions. (Home menu model)
  • I want my shopping to give me X dinners to choose from. It’s ok if variety decreases as the week goes by. (Variety Shopping model)
  • I’m ok scheduling each dinner by the days of the week. (Days of week meal planning.)
  • Other variety considerations:
  • I don’t want to repeat meals much within a week.
  • I’m fine eating the same thing for 2-3 nights or alternating 2 dinners over 4 days.
  • I look for variety seasonally.
  • I can eat the same breakfast for months, but then I need to change it.
  • Other sources of variety
  • Seasonal rotations -
  • Preparation variety - three pastas - tomato, primavera, ceci(!).
  • Make-shift dinners. (I can sometimes just make a salad and side veg for dinner.) Note the nutrition/practicality issues here. Easy to do and very practical if you are on top of your nutrition. You could add a protein shake.

The Enteric-Central Nervous System Axis

Microbiota-gut-Brain image2.jpg

Sonnenbergs, C 6, "A Gut Feeling"

  • The Brain-Gut Axis
  • Documents the two-way comm bt brain and gut (enteric nervous system). Gut brain is "listening" in on the trillions of microbes in the gut.
  • Central nervous system (sympathetic and parsympathetic). Autonomic functions like heart rate include "transit rate" of food, secretion of acid in stomach and mucus in intestines. Hypothalmoic-ituitary adrenal axis (HPA) controls hormones that affect digestion.
  • Gut bacteria can influence our perception of the world and behavior:
  • serotonin production
  • toxplasma gondii (rodents and cats)
  • microbe free mice are bigger risk takers. Critical phase in correcting for this.
  • mice with impaired microbiota had worse memory (141)
  • Speculate symbiotic relationship -- microbes likely improve fitness through risk aversion and memory.
  • Mechanisms -- gut bacteria produce chemicals that go into blood stream.
  • The Personality Transplant
  • More evidence of effects on perception and behavior:
  • 2011 McMaster study: fecal transplants between anxious and gregarious strains of mice partially reversed behavior. Mechanisms: Brain-derived neurotropic factor (BDNF) - associated with depression, schizophrenia, and OCD. Gregarious mice has increase in BDNF after transplant. Intermediate mechanisms not completely clear. "How can a bacteria at the end of your digestive tract change the expression of a protein at the top of your skull?"
  • An unsupervised drug factory
  • 144: MACS (microbiotically available carbs) produce SCFAs, but also many other compounds, including toxins that normal kidneys filter. Lots to learn. Some stimulate appetite. Many products may be neutural with respect to fitness. They imagine a hypothetical scenario in which a pectin digesting bacterium takes up residence in your gut. Maybe it has mutated to also stimulate your desire for fruit.
  • The Microbiota's Toxic Waste
  • Hepatic encephalopathy -- treatments target microbes that produce toxins. Earlier treatments required removing some length of intestines.
  • TMAO - trimethylamine-N-oxide. produced by microbes. implicated in cardiovascular disease. Red meat and fatty foods increase TMAO. Vegans and vegetarians have low TMAO production. Study on long term vegan who eats a steak. Still low TMAO. Might be lacking those microbes. (might argue for low meat consumption as nearly healthful as total meat abstinence).
  • Two-way communication between "brains"
  • Stress, IBS, Autism, and angry faces
  • Induce stress in mice and their microbiota change. Threats cause symp n.s. to do lots of things, including slowing motility and digestion. (maybe to prep us for action)
  • Some stress events have long term effect on microbiota. 150
  • IBS - read - could be a stress induced imbalance that is hard to correct because it gives you MB that also induce stress. also heightened pain perception. Read at 151.
  • Some evidence in animal models that probiotics can help with psychological problems (psychobiotics). Some studies in humans suggest this as well. Better studies needed.
  • Chemical spills out of the gut
  • ASD - autism spectrum disorders. Increasing dramatically. Often associated with gut symptoms. [5] Note connection to rise of industrial diets!
  • ASD research: 2013 Caltech studies by Mazmanian - looked at maternal immune response to infection during pregnancy. Treatment with b. fragilis helped somewhat in mice, both with leaky gut and behavioral symptoms. Effect might involve other microbes. B. fragilis affected over 100 other compounds in blood. Human/mice diffs are significant here. Caution.
  • Fermented Foods
  • 2013 UCLA fMRI study on probiotic yogurt and response to negative facial emotions.