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==14: FEB 27. Unit Two (Part two): Models of morality from moral psychology==
 
 
  
 
===Assigned===
 
===Assigned===
  
:*Tribe, Lawrence. "Deconstructing Dobbs" (2nd half, 9-17)
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:*Churchland C5 – “I’m just that way” – (110-126; 16) – neurology and moral personality, political attitudes.
:*Alfino, "Interpretation, Political Orientation, and the Basic Liberties in the Dobbs Decision" (12-end)
 
 
 
===In-class===
 
 
 
:*Assign SW2: What are Basic Liberties?  Small group discussion on Personal information and family liberties.
 
::*Small group: Basic understand of Dobbs decision and related issues.
 
:::*In your small group, work through these questions to check on your understand.
 
::::*What was the basic thinking on abortion in the Roe and Casey courts?
 
::::*How did the majority decide Dobbs?  Explain the role of interpretive theories of the constitution in this decision (originalism v living document).  
 
::::*Does abortion seem like a "majoritarian" (statutory) right or a "basic liberty" (constitutional or otherwise protected from rule by a simple majority of either state or federal government)? Try out arguments either way.
 
::::*Keep track of questions that arise during your discussion.
 
 
 
:*Some basic data on abortions from Pew [https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2023/01/11/what-the-data-says-about-abortion-in-the-u-s-2/]. 
 
::*Comparing gestational limits by country.[https://righttolife.org.uk/what-are-the-abortion-time-limits-in-eu-countries].  Note: This is from a right to life group, but I have seen similar data elsewhere.
 
 
 
===Tribe, "Deconstructing Dobbs" 2nd half (p. 8-12)===
 
  
:*Tribe thinks only a religious view of the embryo supports this view. "Republican form of government" seems antithetical to a theocracy.  Other evidence that the court is reflecting a preference for Christian thought in reading the 1st amendement.  (Note: Alabama judge in IVF case invokes religious language in decisions.  [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/02/22/ivf-opinion-from-alabama-justice-was-overtly-religious/72689378007/]
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===In-Class===
::*Tribe sees elements of a "tyranny of the minority" in Dobbs, but also in Kennedy v Bremmerton (religious fball coach).  He also thinks that the fact that 3 of the justices were appointed by a president who lost the majority vote is relevant.
 
::*Tribe also feels the court Majority is being inconsistent in its interpretive theory in the case of Bruen, which treats the right to concealed carry of guns as grounded in the 2nd amendment, even though the types of guns did not exist in our "history and traditions". 
 
:*In the remaining 2-3 pages Tribe extends his argument against the conservative court by objecting to other putatively radical decisions it has made.
 
  
===More "language of basic liberties"===
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:*The Paradox of Moral Experience.
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:*Issue Commitment v Political Orientation
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:*Conversational Strategies for Engaging Political Difference
  
:*In addition to your liberty to control your body, bodily autonomy, and intimacy, we recognize (by statute and judicial opinion) basic liberties to control some personal information and to direct the upbringing of your children (parental rights) and other protections for family life. At a practical level, parental rights often involve schooling, which is local in our society.  Still, cases reach the Supreme Court.   
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===Churchland C5 – “I’m just that way” – (110-126; 16)===
  
:*Personal Information Examples
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:*Do personality traits partially determine how we decide something is right or wrong? 
::*A law requiring you to share your browsing history with the government. 
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:*Is political orientation partially determined by personality?
::*A law requiring you to share your medical records with the government.
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:*Is personality partiality determined by genes?
::*A law requiring you to send a full frontal nude picture of yourself to the government every 5 years.
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:*If the answers are yes, yes, and yes, what are the implications?
::*A law allowing anyone to discover your bank account balances.
 
::*A law requiring you to explain your reasons for divorce to a judge (before “no fault”divorce).
 
::*A law conferring a “right to be forgotten” (to have internet information about you deleted).  This is a right guaranteed in the European Union.
 
  
:*Family and Parental Rights Examples
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:*111: Neuorological response to negative stimuli, such as rotting carcases or someone eating live worms correlates significantly with political orienation (as measured by Wilson-Patterson Attitude Inventory).
::*A law prohibiting parents from exempting their kids from some sex education programs.
 
:::*But maybe not: A law allowing parents to exempt their kids from hearing basic public health information, including information about sexually transmitted diseases.
 
::*A law requiring family members to testify against each other.
 
:::*But maybe not: A law preventing the government from checking on child welfare and acting on serious problems, including removing children from their parents’ care.
 
::*A zoning ordinance prohibiting grandparents from living with their families (actual controversy).
 
::*A zoning ordinance prohibiting polyamorous households in a neighborhood. (!)
 
::*A law prohibiting home schooling.
 
::*A law prohibiting parents and their children from receiving gender affirming care.
 
:::*But maybe not: A law allowing parents to chose any elective surgery they wish for their kids.
 
  
===Planning your SW2: Organizing your thoughts on Basic Liberties and Abortion Rights===
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:*2014 study by Woo-Young Ahn - even response to one image is enough for better than chance prediction of political orientation.  Interestingly little correlation with reported (Sys 2) rating of images.  It's Sys 1 that betrays us...
  
:*Consider the following questions as you prepare to write about Basic Liberties and Abortion rights
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:*Work of Hibbing (see especially Chapters 5 and 6 from previous course readings).  Physio-politics: Attentaional studies, Electrodermal studies (EDM or skin conductivity)
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::*Gaze cueing studies - liberals more influenced by gaze cues.
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::*Eye tracking - conservatives lock on to negative or threatening faces faster, longer dwell time.
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::*Cognitive tests - soft categorizers v hard categorizers, Beanfest!
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::*From Churchland also, p. 116.
  
::*Is there a constitutional basic liberty (or liberties) at stake in the abortion rights issue?  Use your "language of basic liberties" to express this or to say why there isn't one.  
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:*Heritability of moral personality and political attitudes.
::*If there is a right to elective abortion, how should we think about it?
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::*MZ (identical) and DZ (fraternal) twin studies show this for traits such as personality traits like aggressiveness, traditionalism, obedience to authority.
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::*Also for political attitudes. 
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::*Extroversion, openness to new experience, emotional stability (neuroticism), agreeableness.  Note: These are results in personality theory and research broadly.  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits]
  
:::*1. As a balance between the liberty interests of the fetus/baby and the host/mother?
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:*How do heritable personality traits related to political orientation?
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::*Caveat: Traits are on a spectrum. You can be conservative about some things and liberal about others. But:
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::*120: Openness predicts less traditional, more liberal.
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::*Conservatives relatively neophobic, liberals neophilic.
  
::::*possible balancing points:  Conception (some pro life), "Clear opportunity" (gestational limits/ Roberts), Viability (Roe/Casey)
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:*Skepticism about the theory that "instinctive pathogen stress response" underlies outgroup behavior.  This might modify our theorizing about the fart spray experiment (and related results)
  
:::*2. As a majoritarian issue -- any law expressing a "rational basis" may be constitutional
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:*The things we get most worked up about: sexuality, intimacy, treatment of outgroups, might be the parts of our conscience and psychology that are most shaped by evolution.  (Note the issues these core challenges map onto: abortion, gay marriage, immigration, war, discrimination.)
  
:::*3. A new constitutional amendment --
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===Some ways that our moral personalities show up in everyday life.===
  
::*Argument strategies:
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:*In intimate partnerships, we often look for “differences”But there are at least 3 things we look for sameness on in partner choice: religion, political orientation, and drinking behavior.
:::*Determine that abortion rights is "more like" other matters that are or aren't basic liberties.   
 
:::*For prolife: Begin with some form or personhood for the fetus and then consider competing liberty claims.
 
  
===SW2: What are Basic Liberties (800 words)===
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:*Trump fridges v. Biden fridges [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/27/upshot/biden-trump-poll-quiz.html]
  
:*'''Stage 1''': Please write an 800 word maximum answer to the following question by '''Saturday March 2, 2023, 11:59pm.'''
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:*Cons and Libs like: different kinds of sermons, jokes, stories, decor. Cons favor Porsches, Libs Volvos
::*Topic: Drawing on resources from this unit and your own reflection, devote the first part of your essay (150-350 words) to these questions: What is your theory of basic liberties?  What makes something a basic liberty and why are they important? Then, in the second part, apply your view about basic liberties to the abortion question, taking into account our work in this unit. How would you have decided Dobbs based on your view of whether abortion is a constitutionally protected basic liberty? Be sure sure to address the strongest arguments for a view opposing yours.  
 
  
::*Notes: You have more discretion here about how much space to give each major part of the essay than in SW1.
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===Issue Commitment v Political Orientation===
  
:*'''Advice about collaboration''': Collaboration is part of the academic process and the intellectual world that college courses are based on, so it is important to me that you have the possibility to collaborate.  I encourage you to collaborate with other students, but only up to the point of sharing ideas, references to class notes, and your own notes, '''verbally'''.  Collaboration  is also a great way to make sure that a high average level of learning and development occurs in the class. The best way to avoid plagiarism is to NOT share text of draft answers or outlines of your answer.  Keep it verbal.  Generate your own examples.
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:*To make practical use of this research, we need to introduce a distinction between "issue commitments" (roughly our position on the political questions of the day) vs "political orientation" (our enduring (after age 22-25) cognitive and emotional responses that predict liberal - moderate - conservative).
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:*Textbook examples:
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::*Pearl Harbor
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::*Americans with Disabilities Act
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::*Immigration - Bush republicans vs. Trump republicans
  
:*Prepare your answer and submit it in the following way. '''You will lose points''' if you do not follow these instructions:
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:*Theory Contrast:
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::*Old school thinking -- We decide to be liberal or conservative (under the tutelage of our dear professors). (Enlightenment connection.  Reason is independent of culture. We reason our way to our political orientation.)
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::*(Possible) New thinking. Political orientation is:
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:::*part of our identity, connected to personality, gels around age 25.  
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:::*orientation doesn't change, but issue commitments can.
  
::# To assure anonymity, you must remove your name from the the "author name" that you may have provided when you set up your word processing application. For instructions on removing your name from an Word or Google document, [[https://wiki.gonzaga.edu/alfino/index.php/Removing_your_name_from_a_Word_file click here]].
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:*Implications: In light of this research:
::# Format your answer in double spaced text, in a typical 12 point font, and using normal margins. Do not add spaces between paragraphs and indent the first line of each paragraph. 
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::*Is it bigotry to think less of someone because they have a different political orientation than you?
::# '''Do not put your name in the file or filename'''.  You may put your student ID number in the file.  Always put a word count in the file. Save your file for this assignment with the name: '''BasicLiberties'''.
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::*Is political orientation more like other identity issues than we thought?
::# To turn in your assignment, log into courses.alfino.org, click on the '''"1 SW2 - Points"''' dropbox.
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::*Should we consider new conversational strategies (and values) to accommodate the new research?
::# If you cannot meet a deadline, you must email me about your circumstances (unless you are having an emergency) '''before''' the deadline or you will lose points.  
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::*Should we focus more on issue commitment?
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::*What are the best ways to get someone with a different political orientation than you to agree on your issue commitment? Give them a path....
  
:*'''Stage 2''': Please evaluate '''four''' student answers and provide brief comments and a score. Review the [[Assignment Rubric]] for this exercise.  We will be using the Flow and Content areas of the rubric for this assignment. Complete your evaluations and scoring by '''Thursday, March 7, 2023, 11:59pm.'''
 
 
 
::*To determine the papers you need to peer review, open the file called "#Key.xls" in the shared folder. You will see a worksheet with saint names in alphabetically order, along with animal names.  Find your saint name and review the next four (4) animals' work below your animal name. If you get to the bottom of the list before reaching 4 animals, go to the top of the list and continue. 
 
  
::*Use [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSca2C-a7XJpi09qCt3wAd1jmi5gPJ2vR-6I3L8ZQDNQ4ZOQwA/viewform?usp=sf_link this Google Form] to evaluate '''four''' peer papers. Submit the form once for each review.
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==='''Paradox of Moral Experience'''===
  
::*Some papers may arrive late.  If you are in line to review a missing paper, allow a day or two for it to show upIf it does not show up, go back to the key and review the next animal's paper, continuing until you get four reviews. Do not review more than four papers.
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::*The Paradox of Moral Experience involves a conflict between two "standpoints" for seeing valuesRoughly, we experience our moral positions as our "truths", but when we study morality using social science methods (objective, 3rd person), our positions look "caused".
  
:*'''Stage 3''': I will grade and briefly comment on your writing using the peer scores as an initial ranking.  Assuming the process works normally, most of my scores probably be within 1-2 points of the peer scores, plus or minus. 
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:The two standpoints:
  
:*'''Stage 4''': Back-evaluation: After you receive your peer comments and my evaluation, take a few minutes to fill out this quick "back evaluation" rating form: [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdgKCYITDTSOOHcvC3TAVNK-EZDsP4jiiyPj-7jdpRoNUsLPA/viewform?usp=sf_link].  '''Fill out the form for each reviewer, but not Alfino.'''  '''You must do the back evaluation to receive credit for the whole assignment.''' Failing to give back-evaluations unfairly affects other classmates.
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::*1. We '''experience our morality''' as beliefs we hold true. They are compelling to us in a way that leads us to expect others to find them compelling. We can be surprised or frustrated that others do not see our reasons as compellingFrom this standpoint, our moral truths feel '''necessary rather than contingent'''.  
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:::*Examples: "What's wrong with those (lib/con)s, don't they see X/Y?" "How can anyone think it's ok to act like that?")  
  
::*Back evaluations are due '''TBD, 11:59pm'''.
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::*2. But, when we '''study morality objectively, as a functional system''' that integrates people who see and interpret the world differently, it is less surprising that we often do not find each others' reasoning or choices compelling.  We can also see how groups of people might develop "values cultures" that diverge on entire sets of values (or, "cooperative toolkits") while still solving some of the same underlying problems that all human societies face.  From this standpoint, the functions of morality are universal, but the specific strategies that individuals and cultures take seem '''very contingent''' -- like the accident of a history of causes. But, knowing this, why don’t we experience our own values as contingent?  '''That's the paradox.'''
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:::*Examples: Sociocentric / Individualist cultures, Specific histories that groups experience (Us vs. Europe vs. ...)
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:::*In experiencing political difference, we see our opposites as "caused" by ideology or bad thinking to believe what they believe.

Latest revision as of 18:57, 27 February 2025

14: FEB 27. Unit Two (Part two): Models of morality from moral psychology

Assigned

  • Churchland C5 – “I’m just that way” – (110-126; 16) – neurology and moral personality, political attitudes.

In-Class

  • The Paradox of Moral Experience.
  • Issue Commitment v Political Orientation
  • Conversational Strategies for Engaging Political Difference

Churchland C5 – “I’m just that way” – (110-126; 16)

  • Do personality traits partially determine how we decide something is right or wrong?
  • Is political orientation partially determined by personality?
  • Is personality partiality determined by genes?
  • If the answers are yes, yes, and yes, what are the implications?
  • 111: Neuorological response to negative stimuli, such as rotting carcases or someone eating live worms correlates significantly with political orienation (as measured by Wilson-Patterson Attitude Inventory).
  • 2014 study by Woo-Young Ahn - even response to one image is enough for better than chance prediction of political orientation. Interestingly little correlation with reported (Sys 2) rating of images. It's Sys 1 that betrays us...
  • Work of Hibbing (see especially Chapters 5 and 6 from previous course readings). Physio-politics: Attentaional studies, Electrodermal studies (EDM or skin conductivity)
  • Gaze cueing studies - liberals more influenced by gaze cues.
  • Eye tracking - conservatives lock on to negative or threatening faces faster, longer dwell time.
  • Cognitive tests - soft categorizers v hard categorizers, Beanfest!
  • From Churchland also, p. 116.
  • Heritability of moral personality and political attitudes.
  • MZ (identical) and DZ (fraternal) twin studies show this for traits such as personality traits like aggressiveness, traditionalism, obedience to authority.
  • Also for political attitudes.
  • Extroversion, openness to new experience, emotional stability (neuroticism), agreeableness. Note: These are results in personality theory and research broadly. [1]
  • How do heritable personality traits related to political orientation?
  • Caveat: Traits are on a spectrum. You can be conservative about some things and liberal about others. But:
  • 120: Openness predicts less traditional, more liberal.
  • Conservatives relatively neophobic, liberals neophilic.
  • Skepticism about the theory that "instinctive pathogen stress response" underlies outgroup behavior. This might modify our theorizing about the fart spray experiment (and related results).
  • The things we get most worked up about: sexuality, intimacy, treatment of outgroups, might be the parts of our conscience and psychology that are most shaped by evolution. (Note the issues these core challenges map onto: abortion, gay marriage, immigration, war, discrimination.)

Some ways that our moral personalities show up in everyday life.

  • In intimate partnerships, we often look for “differences”. But there are at least 3 things we look for sameness on in partner choice: religion, political orientation, and drinking behavior.
  • Trump fridges v. Biden fridges [2]
  • Cons and Libs like: different kinds of sermons, jokes, stories, decor. Cons favor Porsches, Libs Volvos

Issue Commitment v Political Orientation

  • To make practical use of this research, we need to introduce a distinction between "issue commitments" (roughly our position on the political questions of the day) vs "political orientation" (our enduring (after age 22-25) cognitive and emotional responses that predict liberal - moderate - conservative).
  • Textbook examples:
  • Pearl Harbor
  • Americans with Disabilities Act
  • Immigration - Bush republicans vs. Trump republicans
  • Theory Contrast:
  • Old school thinking -- We decide to be liberal or conservative (under the tutelage of our dear professors). (Enlightenment connection. Reason is independent of culture. We reason our way to our political orientation.)
  • (Possible) New thinking. Political orientation is:
  • part of our identity, connected to personality, gels around age 25.
  • orientation doesn't change, but issue commitments can.
  • Implications: In light of this research:
  • Is it bigotry to think less of someone because they have a different political orientation than you?
  • Is political orientation more like other identity issues than we thought?
  • Should we consider new conversational strategies (and values) to accommodate the new research?
  • Should we focus more on issue commitment?
  • What are the best ways to get someone with a different political orientation than you to agree on your issue commitment? Give them a path....


Paradox of Moral Experience

  • The Paradox of Moral Experience involves a conflict between two "standpoints" for seeing values. Roughly, we experience our moral positions as our "truths", but when we study morality using social science methods (objective, 3rd person), our positions look "caused".
The two standpoints:
  • 1. We experience our morality as beliefs we hold true. They are compelling to us in a way that leads us to expect others to find them compelling. We can be surprised or frustrated that others do not see our reasons as compelling. From this standpoint, our moral truths feel necessary rather than contingent.
  • Examples: "What's wrong with those (lib/con)s, don't they see X/Y?" "How can anyone think it's ok to act like that?")
  • 2. But, when we study morality objectively, as a functional system that integrates people who see and interpret the world differently, it is less surprising that we often do not find each others' reasoning or choices compelling. We can also see how groups of people might develop "values cultures" that diverge on entire sets of values (or, "cooperative toolkits") while still solving some of the same underlying problems that all human societies face. From this standpoint, the functions of morality are universal, but the specific strategies that individuals and cultures take seem very contingent -- like the accident of a history of causes. But, knowing this, why don’t we experience our own values as contingent? That's the paradox.
  • Examples: Sociocentric / Individualist cultures, Specific histories that groups experience (Us vs. Europe vs. ...)
  • In experiencing political difference, we see our opposites as "caused" by ideology or bad thinking to believe what they believe.